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Poll Question: Should tigers be released in Africa?
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    Posted: 21-Nov-2007 at 17:49
The tiger is a slow breeder compared to rabbits so the introduction to other places would hopefully have a positive impact , there are other predators within the environment to compete with. I thought the question was about providing an explanation, not a justification for we are thinking of how to save them  in the wild. 
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  Quote Eondt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Dec-2007 at 13:15
Due to the popularity of the thread I thought some might enjoy an update. The program just enjoyed the birth of its first tiger cub.
 

Rare cub's SA media debut
04/12/2007 16:50  - (SA)  

The unnamed tiger cub is fed by reserve staff. (Denis Farell, AP)

Bloemfontein - The first South China tiger cub born in South Africa was shown to the media at the Laohu Valley Reserve in the southern Free State on Tuesday.

The cub, not named yet, was born eleven days ago, weighing 1.2kgs, and opened his eyes on Monday.

"He is now 2.5kg," said Li Quan, founder of the Save China's Tigers at Laohu Valley.

"He is quite vocal, but it is feeding time. He has gained and grown."

The cub, one of the most endangered species in the world, was being hand fed by Kim Hiltrop, an expert in cub rearing from the Lory Park Animal and Owl Sanctuary in Midrand.

"We lack the expert knowledge of hand rearing a cub and are thankful for the partnership with Lory Park," said Quan.

Saved from the cold

She said the cub was taken away from his mother, Cathy, the night he was born due to a spell of unseasonal cold weather.

"We were scared it would die from the cold and exposure."

Quan said the cub would be reintroduced to his mother and father, TigerWoods, with in a month or two.

"It will depend on him and the other tigers' behaviour."

Re-wilding training

There are four other tigers undergoing "re-wilding" training at Laohu Valley.

"The re-wilding programme of these highly endangered South China Tigers has taken a major step forward with the birth of this cub," said Quan.

"The tigers brought to South Africa from China have now not only proven they can hunt and fend for themselves, they have also proven that cubs can be bred in a natural environment."

Save China's Tigers aims to take zoo born tigers from China, allow them to learn to hunt for themselves again and to breed them.

The wild offspring would then be send back to China.

The Laohu Valley reserve covers about 330km and houses about ten species of game.

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      Quote elenos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Dec-2007 at 20:11
    Wonderful news. 
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      Quote Windemere Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Dec-2007 at 00:54
    I checked the 'Tiger' article in Wikipedia and it seems there are 2 programs operating simultaneously to train zoo-bred tigers to breed and survive in the wild. One of them is using South China tigers, which is the most endangered subspecies (there are only 59 of them in captivity, all in China, and only a few left in the wild that are seldom sighted. All 59 of the zoo animals are descended from 6 original animals, so they're kind of inbred, but probably still healthy). They're supposed to be trained to survive in the wild , then sent back to China to be released. South China tigers are a small subspecies, smaller than the Siberian or Bengal. It's nice that a kitten has been born. I'm just guessing, but maybe this is the first South China tiger ever to be born outside of China.
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      Quote Eondt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Dec-2007 at 06:54
    Hi Windemere,
     
    This is indeed the first South China Tiger born outside of China, which makes it all the more special. It's parents are from  a zoo and have by all acounts already learned how to hunt and fend for themselves in the reserve. It has thus been proven that zoo tigers can be reintroduced into the wild. The plans for this little one is to train it to be able to be self sufficient and then send it back to China.
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      Quote Knights Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Dec-2007 at 07:23
    This is fantastic news! Thank you heaps Eondt for alerting me to it - it's brightened up my day. Approve This could be the start of something great, we'll see how it pans out.
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      Quote TranHungDao Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Dec-2007 at 21:03
    I'm not sure about the release of Tigers in Africa. Of course, we don't want them to go extinct for that would be worst.

    If release in Africa, there must be a "dingo fence" that keeps them fenced in. Perhaps only in well fenced national parks and sanctuaries. We wouldn't want them being killed by lion prides; Tigers are bigger than lions but are solitary. Leopards when chased by lions are expert tree climbers.

    We all know that Lions too are under the gun. Leopards, on the other hand, are thriving though.

    Lastly, it is more important to save the Tigers in their own natural habitat. But I guess that knight is assuming that that is not a unrealistic course of action.

    Regardless, Tigers can certainly adapt to Africa, barring hypothetical run-ins with prides of territorial lions. I recently saw an Animal Planet documentary about a big cat expert who proved all the other big cat experts wrong: He was able to teach young tigers to hunt large African prey animals. The young tigers were astonishingly good at it too. The film footage was absolutely dazzling. In fact, they were downright snuff videos!
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      Quote elenos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Dec-2007 at 23:57
    You can really get into the hunting down of prey when seen from the tiger's point of view..
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      Quote Knights Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Jan-2008 at 22:42
    Originally posted by TranHungDao

    I'm not sure about the release of Tigers in Africa. Of course, we don't want them to go extinct for that would be worst.

    If release in Africa, there must be a "dingo fence" that keeps them fenced in. Perhaps only in well fenced national parks and sanctuaries. We wouldn't want them being killed by lion prides; Tigers are bigger than lions but are solitary. Leopards when chased by lions are expert tree climbers.

    The Tigers are kept within the confines of a hunting boma - away from Lion prides and other potential disruptions to the program.

    Originally posted by TranHungDao

    We all know that Lions too are under the gun. Leopards, on the other hand, are thriving though.

    True, with less than 20,000 Lions left in Africa they are vulnerable. Leopards on the other hand, are in fact thriving as you say - there is an estimated 200,000+ of them in Africa alone. Out of all the big cats though, Tigers, namely South China tigers, are at the most danger, with less than 40 or so in the wild.

    Originally posted by TranHungDao

    Lastly, it is more important to save the Tigers in their own natural habitat. But I guess that knight is assuming that that is not a unrealistic course of action.

    Yes - the situation is dire and something had to be done about the plight of the Tiger. The thing about undertaking the program in their native lands, is that land is either occupied by humans (agriculture or villages), or is already a Tiger territory.

    I believe the programme you mentioned as having seen is the one I based this thread around.

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      Quote Panther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jan-2008 at 21:06
    http://www.tigercreek.org/
     
    Just thought i would pop back in and share an interesting site that's close too where i live, within 100 miles or less that is!


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      Quote Knights Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jan-2008 at 23:12
    Thanks for the link Panther, and nice new avatar! (I didn't realise it was you until you posted in this thread Embarrassed)

    Maybe you'll pay a visit there some day. I'm sure it would be great.
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      Quote Panther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jan-2008 at 00:36
    Thank you for noticing Knights. This may sound a bit strange, but for all of my zest for the animals, getting close to one and actually getting to pet it, has never been high on my list of priorities. Something should be said about growing attached to all the limbs on one's body! However, under the right circumstances and an enviroment that i can trust not to turn me into tiger food... and the possibilities seem too be growing more with time! Like you said... some day...  some day... it will just happen!

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