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  Quote Decebal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Why Indian History is neglected?
    Posted: 17-Jan-2007 at 10:09
Well, there's also the aspect that people seem to make a distinction between the Roman civilization and a successor state such as France, but they don't bother making such a distinction between the Zhou state and modern China, or between the Maurya Empire and modern India. This is done even though the differences between Zhou and Qing China are as great or even greater than those between Rome and France, or Maurya and modern India. In short, assuming that India and China have a continuing civilization while Europe does not, is probably a matter of ignoring too much the different stages of the evolution of the development of the Chinese and Indian civilizations, while focusing too much on separating the different stages of European civilization. The same goes for other countries such as Iran, Peru or Mexico, which have had a long history of evolving civilization. I would actually argue that saying that India and China have had an uninterrupted civilization as opposed to Europe or Iran is actually quite an ignorant statement to make.
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  Quote Ikki Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jan-2007 at 11:01
Great argument Decebal.

I want say to our south///indian friends that instead of opening one and another thread criying about the same things (it's a complex?), they can put a few effort in make good factual, scientifical, historical articles, and not wast anymore the time in these type of discussions wich by month, years, hadn't contributed to anything. Have you see our poor article section about South Asia?


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Why you say like that?

By single stroke, you say we are wasting time?

In fact, by participating in the SEA forum, the response has not been proper.

By ignoring or just keeping quite might be the complex exhibited towards "South India" and "South Indians".

You point out, which is not fact, scientific or historical.

As for the statement of Decebal, "I would actually argue that saying that India and China have had an uninterrupted civilization as opposed to Europe or Iran is actually quite an ignorant statement to make", I note that you people always make such provoking statements. I do not know, how, one can pass such remarks. 

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  Quote K. V. Ramakrishna Rao Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jan-2007 at 04:35

I kept quite because of the attitude of some of the persons who post nasty, unparliamentary, and objectionable words, just to provoke.

If subjects like these are to be discussed with intelligence, patience, evidence, logic, etc., then, there is no meaning in abusing others.
 
Here, I do not find any reason to accuse us as "south Indians". If pssible, you answer our querries or debate reaonably and gently with decorum.
 
Do not think that we are free. In spite of my busy schedule with official and other academic work, I am trying to do a little, as some of them have been responding reasonably. Answering intellectually require time and resources. We have to refer many books and respond and not just sit before computer and type something casually and then get away with or to use bad language to turn direction.
 
Hope our discussion would continue with undestanding and mutrual respect.
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  Quote Omar al Hashim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Mar-2007 at 03:48
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  Quote malizai_ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Mar-2007 at 06:00
Originally posted by Hick

Indian history is neglected because its not very important on the world stage, especially when you have histories of such great civilizations as Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, Persians and Islamic.
 
Wooa!! ShockedIndian history excluding the ancient Pakistani component is still very rich and diverse. So the above is an unwarranted comment. Also simply because the Pakistan region is isolated by geography from the more Eastern Indian region doesn't mean that they don't have much shared and common history. Especially with Northern India all the way up to the Bengal coast.
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  Quote Reginmund Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Mar-2007 at 09:35
Originally posted by pinguin

Don't downplay India, please. You didn't mention Egypt either, BUT NEVER EVER forget Native American Civilizations, OK? Angry
 
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  Quote Decebal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Mar-2007 at 13:33
Originally posted by T.SELVAM

Why you say like that?

By single stroke, you say we are wasting time?

In fact, by participating in the SEA forum, the response has not been proper.

By ignoring or just keeping quite might be the complex exhibited towards "South India" and "South Indians".

You point out, which is not fact, scientific or historical.

As for the statement of Decebal, "I would actually argue that saying that India and China have had an uninterrupted civilization as opposed to Europe or Iran is actually quite an ignorant statement to make", I note that you people always make such provoking statements. I do not know, how, one can pass such remarks. 

 
First of all my statement was meant to criticize the arbitrary division which some people make between different periods for some regions of the world but not others. If we are going to make an arbitrary distinction between the Europe of the Roman Empire and the Europe of the so-called Middle Ages and say that they belong to different civilizations, then we would have to acnowledge the similar turns of events in Indian history (for instance after the fall of the Guptas, or after the muslim invasions) as somehow constituting a change in civilizations, which is not the case. Same goes for China. One could choose to divide civilizations on the basis of a set of criteria, which are subject to dispute. The important thing is to keep consistent. I am saying that making a statement on those lines (that I was referring to earlier) can only arise from an ignorance of either Indian or European history, because such a statement is not consistent.
And second of all, who is "you people"?
 
And please I don't appreciate being selectively quoted. I believe that the paragraph that I had written above the sentence that you quoted explained perfectly well my position. Either read the whole thing, or don't bother complaining about my supposedly provoking statements.


Edited by Decebal - 02-Mar-2007 at 13:36
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  Quote bilal_ali_2000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Sep-2007 at 14:48
The reason for the neglect of the history of India is quite simple. It was too far east and too self contained for the Greco-Roman and christian civlizations which are the cradle of Western Civilization which has been the dominant civilization for at least a three centuries. So whatever civilizations are not central to their civiliations are ignored. They would have you believe that aside from Ancient Egypt there hasn't been a civilization in Africa.      

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  Quote Seko Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Sep-2007 at 10:54
On the contrary. I would like to lay to rest some of the doubts that our Indian members may have. First and foremost you are well respected members of the AE community. I personally believe that Indian culture has a long rich history. I would encourage Indian members to open historical threads instead of feeling neglected.
 
Regarding individual countries having there own forum, this has not been our policy and I do not see that changing any time soon.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Sep-2007 at 01:23
actually the history of indus valley is not neglected, but that is not indian history.
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