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Urungu Han
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Topic: What does Ottoman mean? Posted: 23-Jul-2006 at 04:57 |
This isn't the "man" which is european,Osman is an arabic name.
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xi_tujue
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Posted: 23-Jul-2006 at 08:41 |
what about the name teoman thats a old turkic name right like toumen and teoman are the same or not
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Maziar
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Posted: 23-Jul-2006 at 12:10 |
rather coincidense. And i am sure teoman or touman is only one word, it dose not include teo and man, but also teoman, one word.
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Ave1
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Posted: 23-Jul-2006 at 13:32 |
Originally posted by xi_tujue
what about the name teoman thats a old turkic name right like toumen and teoman are the same or not |
That sounds Mongolian since it means a division of 10,000 troops, if I am not mistaken.
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xi_tujue
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Posted: 23-Jul-2006 at 14:26 |
its a old Xiongnu name so hunnic asian huns= turkic but xiongnu included alot of mongols
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Attila2
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Posted: 18-Aug-2006 at 07:58 |
the name of Osman was Ataman(I read it on a newspaper article) but it was obviously not a "muslim" name.The muslims began to call him Osman later on
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The Gypo
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Posted: 18-Aug-2006 at 08:48 |
i dont know about other arabic speaking countries, but in egypt the ottomans are called Osmaniyin...single of which is Osmani
each word begins with the "3en" letter which is a deep throated sound
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Attila2
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Posted: 18-Aug-2006 at 08:52 |
Originally posted by Maziar
Sorry, but the word "man" is an indo-europian word, it isn't Altaic, so i doubt that this word exists in Turkish. Osman is only one word and you can't divide it in 2 or more words and build a new concept. |
Actually,the addition/suffix "-man" in old Turkic languages meant "-ling" in English
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