Israel and its infinite existance

Creating Israel is one of the few things that the United Nations did right.

The United Nations has a history of screwing things up.  For example, look at the situation in Bosnia that took place during the 90's.  The United Nations stepped in with the goal of protecting Bosniaks from the "evil" Serbs when in fact, it was the Bosniaks that provocted the aggression.  The UN, in its infinite wisdom, picked the wrong side to fight on.  I could go on about other UN blunders but the point is that the UN is a worthless organization with all kinds of problems.  Creating Israel is one of the few things they did right (except that they should have made it bigger).  Another issue I have with the UN is that they still refuse to accept the fact that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel (and always will be) and instead insist that Tel Aviv is the capital.

Originally posted by edgewaters Originally posted by R_AK47 The United Nations has a history of screwing things up.  For example, look at the situation in Bosnia that took place during the 90's.  The United Nations stepped in with the goal of protecting Bosniaks from the "evil" Serbs when in fact, it was the Bosniaks that provocted the aggression.  The UN, in its infinite wisdom, picked the wrong side to fight on.  Debatable. Western media certainly bought into alot of manipulations from the Bosnians and Croats and has never really corrected the impressions it left. The real problem was that the UN took sides at all, since it allied itself with groups and downplayed crimes which parallelled those of the Serbs.

Either way, the UN still made a mess of the whole situation.

Originally posted by barish Originally posted by R_AK47 The United Nations has a history of screwing things up. For example, look at the situation in Bosnia that took place during the 90's. The United Nations stepped in with the goal of protecting Bosniaks from the "evil" Serbs when in fact, it was the Bosniaks that provocted the aggression. The UN, in its infinite wisdom, picked the wrong side to fight on. Bosnians provoked them? Or you say so just because they were Muslims? You don't surprise me anymore. You are just a fanatical crusader.

And you are a fanatical communist.

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Originally posted by R_AK47 Originally posted by edgewaters Originally posted by R_AK47 The United Nations has a history of screwing things up.  For example, look at the situation in Bosnia that took place during the 90's.  The United Nations stepped in with the goal of protecting Bosniaks from the "evil" Serbs when in fact, it was the Bosniaks that provocted the aggression.  The UN, in its infinite wisdom, picked the wrong side to fight on.  Debatable. Western media certainly bought into alot of manipulations from the Bosnians and Croats and has never really corrected the impressions it left. The real problem was that the UN took sides at all, since it allied itself with groups and downplayed crimes which parallelled those of the Serbs. Either way, the UN still made a mess of the whole situation.

And you're saying the Israel/Palestine aftermath is not a mess?

Originally posted by R_AK47 Originally posted by Halevi Originally posted by R_AK47 Originally posted by edgewaters Originally posted by R_AK47 The United Nations has a history of screwing things up.  For example, look at the situation in Bosnia that took place during the 90's.  The United Nations stepped in with the goal of protecting Bosniaks from the "evil" Serbs when in fact, it was the Bosniaks that provocted the aggression.  The UN, in its infinite wisdom, picked the wrong side to fight on.  Debatable. Western media certainly bought into alot of manipulations from the Bosnians and Croats and has never really corrected the impressions it left. The real problem was that the UN took sides at all, since it allied itself with groups and downplayed crimes which parallelled those of the Serbs. Either way, the UN still made a mess of the whole situation. And you're saying the Israel/Palestine aftermath is not a mess? It is a mess, thanks in good part to more UN mismanagement.  They need to tell the "palestinians" to quit whining, get over it, and move somewhere else.  All that has to be done after that is not let them return.  Problem solved.  I don't see why they are wasting all this time on peace plans and peace talks.  A compromise is impossible to reach.

i have a faster more effective solution

They need to tell the "Israels who came from outside" to quit whining, get over it, and move somewhere else.  All that has to be done after that is not let them return.  Problem solved.  I don't see why they are wasting all this time on peace plans and peace talks.  A compromise is impossible to reach.

So long as the West (Europe, America etc..) & the East Asia remain, Israel would prosper.

Arabs see Isreal as a sort of South Africa like apartheid state[which only jews are allowed to colonize] created by rich and powerful Ashkenazis on land that they feel the turks should have turned over to the native arabs living there[in the form of a state]. This is the root of their hatred and rivalry with the nation-state of Isreal.

Unfortunately for the Arabs, Israel is backed 110% by the US, Russia, Britain, France and Germany, mainly because Jews have a tremendous amount of power and influence within the governments of these rich G8 countries as well as the mass media there.

But when it comes to the middle east, Israels PR has not been quite as successful, if word politics changed and a major power started backing arabs then Isreal may end up going into a slow decline over a 25 to 50 year period, at the end of which the nature of Israels government changes drastically[is destroyed]. Either that or they will turn the whole ME upside down and create great havoc and destruction, either directly or through proxy allies like the U.S./U.K.

Well I suppose thats the trouble when people return to their own native land, they find other people consider that same native land theirs too.

I don't doubt for a second Jewish claims on the land they live in now, I don't doubt for a second ARab claism on the land they once lived in either.

As long as there is West & US & Hindus, Israel will be supreme. The doubt should be about the arabis.