Old finnish culture

Check AE article Viking Age Finland

What you ask, Socrates is about genetics. It would seem that Finnish and Baltic peoples have a very strong male ascendance from that "Uralic" branch but overall they are only slightly different from their neighbours. Women assimilated the newcomers along centuries and milennia.

You see the y-chr cake of Finland, for isntance and it may be 60-70% Finno-Ugric but when it comes to overall genetics they are much like Russians or Nordics. The only group that keeps that overall strong Uralic makeup in Europe are Lapps, who are the less Caucasoid of all Caucasoid branches.

AFAIK lapps are mongoloid...Arent they?

And do finns have connections with lapps(at origin)

BTW,As I heard the finns came from siberia.Is this smth proven or just a theory?

Originally posted by Maju Check AE article Viking Age Finland i don't know if it says anything about it in the article-but i'm interested how is it that finns resemble the germanics so much (flemings of belgium, i think) if they r uralic people?

Why do brits eat Rise and Curry from India when they are a germanic people? Why do japanese businessmen wear european ties when they are Asians?

AFAIK lapps are mongoloid...Arent they? And do finns have connections with lapps(at origin)

No the S�mi (real name for "lapps") are "white"/caucasians. People use to think that S�mi are mongoloid due to the asiatic-like features that are common among them. I have partly s�mi origin and have thus inherrited small slant eyes, high protruding cheekbones and a short, stocky stature. That's due to climatic adaptions howewer, not to an alledged asiatic origin.  As Maju wrote the S�mi and the Finns share related languages and some common genes

BTW,As I heard the finns came from siberia.Is this smth proven or just a theory?

The Finns don't come from anywhere, they became Finns in Finland. Their physical ancestors howewer came from many places, mostly the Baltics

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Originally posted by Attila2 how can someone be caucasoid if he has slanted eyes and high cheekbones? I mean yes your skin color can be white...but it doesnt mean you are caucasian

Pale, pink skin, blue eyes, blonde hair, straight noses... Well what's more to prove. Even if some finno-ugrian people use to look slighlty asiatic with slant eyes they still miss the epicathic fold that asians have.

Where can i get some data about balcan genetics-reliable data?

Sorry, i know it's off-topic

 

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Originally posted by Tanel Finns and estonians are mongoloid race.I think they come from somewhere between Ural and Altaic mountains.But this is clear the estonian vikings were not popular in surounded lands,heh

Say what?

They are not Mongoloid... maybe their forefathers were at some point but they got so strongly mixed that they are not anymore.


Estonian soldier


Estonian women

Nobody looks Mongoloid in Estonia

I have the basic knowledge from the school history books and it goes something like this: Estonian forefathers came here 4000. BC. They were Asian looking and are regarded as straight forefathers of todays Estonians, Finns, Livonians, Karelians, Vepsians, Isurs and Vadians. Then around 2200. BC the the next migrants came here who were very European looking, and were Indo-Europeans. This has been proven by a reconstructed skull found at a burial site, so they were certainly from the Europidian class or group of people. Up to the middle of the 2nd millenia BC the two tribes integrated into todays Estonians who are European looking.
So i think that Estonians aren't Asian or European descent, they are a mix of both, and that probably goes for the Finns aswell.

Finns/Sami are caucasian but they look more asiatic than other europeans becous they came early from a asiatic branch.

Yes some finns may look like germanians becous they have more caucasian genes than asiatic u understand.

Yes, i keep getting the picture that the Finno-Ugric origin is not the common "they came from the Urals", but i haven't been searching for new information on the subject either.