(Scary Imams and gullable) Muslims versus Denmark (and fascists)

It's not really OT. The current event threads always
have to find somewhere to go, really.

I think it's interesting, what you've said. I believe it's
important to respect other religions but by respect I
think I'm referring to the same feelings you are? I
don't believe in them, I don't necessarily admire
them, I just accept other people's right to have their
beliefs not subjected to ridicule or insult - the same
as I demand for my own.

On a more personal note, for me it all revolves
around intentions. You could call me the most
beautiful woman in the world with a snarl in your
voice and I'll attack you for it, or you could softly
whisper the most evil things as a joke and I'll laugh.

Yes you make sense, and I agree with you.

Originally posted by Jorsalfar I do not see why ALL Danes and Norwegians are blamed for the actions of one single newspaper . I didnt even know of the Norwegian newspaper before yesterday.

Their grievance is bigger than just this.  It happens to be the straw that broke the camel's back.

Originally posted by Mila President Sulejman Tihic of Bosnia and Herzegovina said he would not be so upset if not for Denmark's previous insults to Muslims - including speeches in which members of the government referred to Islam as a cancer, one politician even said the Nazis went after the wrong people. None of these politicians were sanctioned, according to Tihic.

Be careful, though, Ghengis. The "according to Tihic" in that phrase is very important.

I vaguely remember reading an article in the Western press about the comments, it was recently because I thought about making a thread here and decided not to (meaning it wasn't YEARS ago before I joined).

But I don't remember anything about the Nazi comment, just the cancer one.

So take it with a grain of salt. I can only vouch for half of it.

EDIT: I can't say whether or not they were sanctioned either.


Edited by Mila

 Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. Christianity is made fun of all the time in America. it's the but of jokes, newpaper editorials, everything. But as soon as someone does something against Islam all hell breaks loose.

The real disgrace here is that people are calling for the danish govt. to shutdown the paper or punish it. The Press should be able to print whatvever they want, regardless fo who it offends. Islam is no different from anything else. if someone wants to criticize it, then they can. Distasteful? maybe, but it is their right, and freedoms are more important than some religion

as far as I'm concerned, Islam fell right into the trap set by the Danish right. They stated that part of their reasoning behind this was to see how well islam works with freedom. They wanted exactly this kind of response, and they got it





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I find incredible that all these fanatics start to make noise just because someone says something like "f*ck Muhammad" or wahatever. People says the same about Christ and the Virgin Mary all the time. I think that some are asking for trouble.

Or you learn to be tolerant with blasphem or you bury your head in Mecca and don't get out of ther in your lifetime.

Where are the cartoons? Btw.

Originally posted by merced12 A Danish flag in Gaza

I find it a shame: probably Palestinians hve more support in Europe than in Arabia, specially in progressive countries such as Denmark.

It's like stepping on the flag of Palestine itself.

Originally posted by Mila But if they want to instead hold a stage show with burning crosses and blow-up dolls bent over in Islamic prayer, that is disrespectful.

So what if it is disrepectful: democracy and freedom is made up of lack of respect. Bear with it.

As long as they don't disrupt the actual pray, which would be a direct provocation on people, you can say whatever.

And if you think that your rights are being violated: go to the judge.

Some quick Christian blasphemies from the net:






Etc...

Get used: welcome to the West. Where nothing is holy except freedom of speach.

If you don't like it, don't buy the media that publishes it. If you dont like the tolerance, migrate to Saudi Arabia - I think they are always needed of more workforce.

It is beyond disrespectful.  It is being used as propaganda against a people rather than merely disrespect for freedom of speach's sake.

They showed a video of women in Zenica throwing handfulls of boxes of Danish-made food from a supermarket into the street. People were kicking them around and others were stuffing them into garbage bags.

Then it showed a fire somewhere else, some park, and they were throwing them in - BUT - one woman was eating them as she threw them in.