Would US attack Iran?!!

it is criminal negligence.

Originally posted by Cent "Life isn't risk free.  Such things happen in civilian life also." Yes, there is a risk, but why increase it?

Originally posted by Genghis Originally posted by Zagros [QUOTE=Genghis] [QUOTE=Zagros]no it is worse. I would compare it to inhaling a gaseous heavy metal. Well, that's what it is, but in the long term it's like any other heavy metal in the soil and water, something that's very common with other weapons, and additives to weapons.

I know all about DU ammunition, but the fact that it has the consequences that it does  and is still used means that the users don't give a sh*t about the collateral, therefore it is intentional. 

So say the Russians periodically invade various US states, knowing fine well the consequences of using the munitions that they do, the greater american general public wouldnt blame them for having retarded/deformed babies as well as tens of thousands of infrim? 

ie: Would you blame the Russians? would it be their fault?

Originally posted by Zagros Originally posted by Genghis Originally posted by Zagros no it is worse. I would compare it to inhaling a gaseous heavy metal. Well, that's what it is, but in the long term it's like any other heavy metal in the soil and water, something that's very common with other weapons, and additives to weapons. Well the point is, that it gives people cancer and poisons their bodies and makes their babies come out deformed in the short term.  Technically, it is therefore a WMD.

That doesn't make it a weapon of mass destruction.  There is no all encompassing definition of WMD, but generally a DU shell will kill only one tank and crew member at a time and it does not do so using bacteriological, toxic, or nuclear properties.  Any kills are the result of its extreme density.  Residue is unintentional and not meant to kill anyone by the people who use it, whether or not it actually does.

Originally posted by Zagros Originally posted by Genghis Originally posted by Zagros no it is worse. I would compare it to inhaling a gaseous heavy metal. Well, that's what it is, but in the long term it's like any other heavy metal in the soil and water, something that's very common with other weapons, and additives to weapons. Well the point is, that it gives people cancer and poisons their bodies and makes their babies come out deformed in the short term.  Technically, it is therefore a WMD.

Under such thinking, any process associated with military activity that has residuals such as mercury, or cadmium or asbestos or PCBs is a WMD.

Life isn't risk free.  Such things happen in civilian life also.

 

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Hogwash.  Kerry would have the same mess on his hands.  What do you think he could have done as C-in-C?  Just leave?

He wouldn't have left Iraq, he said that because he knows we can't just leave once you get into it. But odds are we wouldn't be looking to go to Iran. He probably would have stressed to the extreme more Diplomacy. Now you may say thats just weak, but before war it doesn't matter who is stronger if intimidation doesn't work against a country will to fight, it's just going to be the deaths of thousands.

We are doing absolutly everything to get in talks with a man incharge of North Korea who watched his little brother drown when he was a child, so he's obviously insane and he wants nukes. But yet we won't push for talks with Iran and seem to be jumping to the idea of attacking them.

Originally posted by Mira Originally posted by Genghis Are you being serious when you talk about your Care Bear love everyone solution to the problem? Love-everyone?  You must be kidding.

Fine

Are you being serious when you talk about your Care Bear love-everyone-but-the-USA-the-one-and-only-source-of-evil-in -the-world solution to the problem?

Originally posted by Mira Are you people serious when you argue about the lesser of (two or more) evils?  DU being the lesser evil doesn't justify the use and damage!  Can you be more sympathetic to those who were/are affected by it, please?  It's like telling a person, "So what if you lost an eye because I poked a pen in it.  You have your other eye.  At least you're not completely blind."  That's absolutely ridiculous!

Are you being serious when you talk about your Care Bear love everyone solution to the problem?

Are you people serious when you argue about the lesser of (two or more) evils?  DU being the lesser evil doesn't justify the use and damage!  Can you be more sympathetic to those who were/are affected by it, please?  It's like telling a person, "So what if you lost an eye because I poked a pen in it.  You have your other eye.  At least you're not completely blind." 

That's absolutely ridiculous!

Originally posted by SearchAndDestroy If only Kerry got into office, more loss of life could have been prevented...

It would have definately been better than this mess.