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Thegeneral
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Topic: Understanding the U.S. Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 20:06 |
Originally posted by Mixcoatl
Originally posted by hugoestr
The U.S. is a country of inovation and efficiency. Why have two containers when you can onlt have one?
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because peanut butter an jam taste bad together. Peanut butter is much better without jam.
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Lol, although I agree, I think many would differ with us on that.
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Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 20:32 |
Jelly and Jam are two different things, I don't think they sell jam and peanut butter together. Although they taste fine together to me, I prefer Jelly. I don't think jelly is as healthy though.
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Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 20:36 |
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Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 20:39 |
Best thing to do Morticia is just shrug it off and don't let them get to you. Doing that your being the better person. While some are making some remarks that maybe uncalled for, I don't think they mean any harm.
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Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 20:53 |
Some of the questions for Americans are presented lightheartedly. I do not think any harm is done when others curiously and purposefully question our peanut butter. Maybe most others eat American peanut butter anyway. Nutello gives me allergic reactions by the way (a gift from our friends overseas).
We are opening ourselves to all kinds of questioning. Afterall, we as Americans, started this thread in the first place.
There are a few serious questions out of the bunch too. So maybe we could concentrate on answering those with good faith.
So lighten up fellow compatriots. We could take a thousand more questions before we become tired of answering them.
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Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 20:58 |
But Mixcoatl really hit me hard about the peanut butter and jelly issue. I think this means war now!
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Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 21:08 |
Originally posted by Seko
Some of the questions for Americans are presented lightheartedly. I do not think any harm is done when others curiously and purposefully question our peanut butter. Maybe most others eat American peanut butter anyway. Nutello gives me allergic reactions by the way (a gift from our friends overseas).
We are opening ourselves to all kinds of questioning. Afterall, we as Americans, started this thread in the first place.
There are a few serious questions out of the bunch too. So maybe we could concentrate on answering those with good faith.
So lighten up fellow compatriots. We could take a thousand more questions before we become tired of answering them.
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I see nothing wrong with lighthearted questions, but what starts me up is when questions like "Where are the WMD?" and "Why shoot to kill?". These questions have, for one, been answered many times, and are just posted to start more flame wars. Like flame wars are somethign we really need more of!
So, maybe this was a bad idea, but, if it all works out well, it would have been a good learning experience for our European, Asian, and other friends. However, I suggest we tread carefully for threat of breaking ice and letting the flames ensue!
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Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 21:48 |
Originally posted by Mixcoatl
Originally posted by hugoestr
The U.S. is a country of inovation and efficiency. Why have two containers when you can onlt have one?
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because peanut butter an jam taste bad together. Peanut butter is much better without jam.
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It is an acquired taste. Give it a few more tries and you will never go back to simple peanut sandwiches anymore.
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Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 21:58 |
Hate to keep talking about this subject, but people just eat plain peanut butter sandwiches? They are so dry that way...
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Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 21:59 |
Originally posted by Thegeneral
Originally posted by Seko
Some of the questions for Americans are presented lightheartedly. I do not think any harm is done when others curiously and purposefully question our peanut butter. Maybe most others eat American peanut butter anyway. Nutello gives me allergic reactions by the way (a gift from our friends overseas).
We are opening ourselves to all kinds of questioning. Afterall, we as Americans, started this thread in the first place.
There are a few serious questions out of the bunch too. So maybe we could concentrate on answering those with good faith.
So lighten up fellow compatriots. We could take a thousand more questions before we become tired of answering them.><
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I see nothing wrong with lighthearted questions, but what starts me up is when questions like "Where are the WMD?" and "Why shoot to kill?". These questions have, for one, been answered many times, and are just posted to start more flame wars. Like flame wars are somethign we really need more of!
So, maybe this was a bad idea, but, if it all works out well, it would have been a good learning experience for our European, Asian, and other friends. However, I suggest we tread carefully for threat of breaking ice and letting the flames ensue! |
I think that things have been controlled, and that people have been respectful. People in other parts of the world have this questions, and it fair for them to ask them, and we can answer them honestly. Are there misconceptions? Sure, that is the point of the thread: to clear them and give the American side of the story.
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Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 22:36 |
This is one I'd like to know the answer too,
Why is the murder/gun crime rate so high in the US.
I've heard many people provide the explaination it's due to lax gun control and high gun ownership.
However many countries have more lax gun controls, much higher gun ownership but virtually no gun crime.
So far I've only ever heard one viable explaination from Michael Moore.
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What I want to know is why do many Americans vote against their own best interests. For example, one would think that people in the poor areas of the country, such as the South, would vote Democrat because they are more socialist and typically tend to favour the poor people. And Southern people actually used to vote Deomcrat in the 60's right? What happened? Why do so many poor people in America vote for the party which represents the interest of the rich people?
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Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 22:51 |
The crime has gone down alot. I think the crime rates gave us a bad name from the early to mid 90s. But crime has gone down substantially and continues to drop.
Also from what I understand the guns that are usually used aren't registered which means they come from the black market.
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Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 22:54 |
What I want to know is why do many Americans vote against their own best interests. For example, one would think that people in the poor areas of the country, such as the South, would vote Democrat because they are more socialist and typically tend to favour the poor people. And Southern people actually used to vote Deomcrat in the 60's right? What happened? Why do so many poor people in America vote for the party which represents the interest of the rich people? |
Republicans are now known as the bible party. So the reason I think they vote for them is because most of poor are more religious so they vote for the Republicans. Other then that I honestly don't know, I'm from the North .
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Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 23:06 |
Originally posted by Paul
This is one I'd like to know the answer too,
Why is the murder/gun crime rate so high in the US.
I've heard many people provide the explaination it's due to lax gun control and high gun ownership.
However many countries have more lax gun controls, much higher gun ownership but virtually no gun crime.
So far I've only ever heard one viable explaination from Michael Moore. |
First, gun violence is not widespread in the U.S. Most of the violence occurs in the South and in certain metropolitan areas. The U.S. is a rather safe country.
The most plausible explanation that I have heard is that gun violence occurs where there is an honor culture. In an honor culture, insults to one's honor have to be solved quickly. If satisfaction is not found fast enough, violence follows.
The American South has such a culture among white and black people. Black people must have inherited some aspects of the honor culture from the South, but some must have been brought from Africa. Latin-Americans also share have an honor culture. Gun violence is high in all of these groups, and in many cases it is a crime of passion of because the muderer felt dishonored by the victim.
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Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 23:12 |
Originally posted by SearchAndDestroy
What I want to know is why do many Americans vote against their own best interests. For example, one would think that people in the poor areas of the country, such as the South, would vote Democrat because they are more socialist and typically tend to favour the poor people. And Southern people actually used to vote Deomcrat in the 60's right? What happened? Why do so many poor people in America vote for the party which represents the interest of the rich people? |
Republicans are now known as the bible party. So the reason I think they vote for them is because most of poor are more religious so they vote for the Republicans. Other then that I honestly don't know, I'm from the North . |
Let me add a little bit to your good answer. Republicans have been good at presenting themselves as the party of the middle class to poor White American. It represents its cultural identity, so voting for the Republican Party is an act of affirming one's culture. So even though the Republican Party doesn't defend the economic interests of these people, it does represent the cultural ones very well.
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Posted: 01-Nov-2005 at 00:41 |
Why Americans vote against their interests......
People from the south dont go cry "where is the government" when they hit hard times. America for the longest time has emphasized limited government...the idea that a man should build his own bridge rather than have tax payers and the government do it for him.
As for our gun problem....it isnt that people have guns. It is that we are a violent society with millions of children with no family life. TV and video games raise our kids and parents are too busy with work to notice. Then again, you also have crime where there is need. In poor areas this is especially true. Plus, the black leaders in America arent all that helpful. Jesse Jackson owns the largest Budweiser distributor in Chicago. Louis Farrackon (spelling) is some crazy cult leader (the Jim Jones of Islam).
Overall, the answer isnt always government. In fact, government can do more harm than good.
As to America's wealth distribution.....the tax code is written in a way in which those richest people pay the majority of the taxes despite what you hear from American liberals. Not everybody can be rich but there is opportunity to become rich...that is what all of strive to do and all of us who arent rich hate rich people because we are jealous of their success.
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Posted: 01-Nov-2005 at 05:40 |
Originally posted by hugoestr
I rather tend to believe that radio and movies helped spread the Mid-Western accent, which is strongly influeced by Scots-Irish, as the dominant one.
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In fact there's a lot in common between US accents in general and those from the south-west of England, especially the urban speeded-up ones in places like Southampton and Plymouth.
While Americans never take me for American, quite a lot of English people ask me if I'm American when they hear me talk. (That is of course foreigners from places in the far north like Oxford or the far east like London and Kent.)
However, if one listen carefully, one can still tell social class depending on the accents that people use. A key feature: higher class accents in the East don't pronounce the final 'r' in words like "butter."
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As opposed to leaving out the 'tt' like many English people?
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Posted: 01-Nov-2005 at 05:47 |
Originally posted by pikeshot1600
Numerous responses here have been fatuous or juvenile: "Why don't you lock your cars?; who mixes peanut butter and jelly?" Give us all a break. Criticize your own governments and cultures as well.
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There was nothing fatuous about my questions about effervescent tablets, electric kettles and whole fish. I've spent a lot of time and effort (and in the case of the imported kettle, money) on them. I was hoping someone could tell me where or how I could get them.
Unimportant to you possibly, but none the less genuine. I mostly understand the 'important' political and economic issues.
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Posted: 01-Nov-2005 at 05:52 |
Originally posted by pikeshot1600
If the United States is the perceived source of racism, oppression, imperialism and aggression, why is it that so many people want to immigrate here...legally or not? What is up with that? Could there be reasons for it?
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Yes. If you live in East Africa, say, you can expect a better standard of living in the US even if you are restricted to working in low-level service jobs.
You probably don't care about the rest.
From most of the world, the US is no more desirable a place to emigrate to than the rest of the western countries. The apparently automatic assumption that it is more desirable is one of those things that gets up people's noses.
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