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JiNanRen
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Topic: a nations contributions to Science and Technology Posted: 01-Sep-2005 at 22:44 |
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JiNanRen
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Posted: 01-Sep-2005 at 22:46 |
Here's the definition taken out of a dictionary.
Definitions: | | 1. member of early Chinese people: a
member of a Central Asian people who lived in the Tarim Basin in
western China before being defeated by the Uigurs during the 9th
century ad. They are believed to have spread into China from Eastern Europe.
| 2. Tocharian language: the
extinct language of the Tocharian people. It forms a separate branch of
the Indo-European family and shows close resemblances to some western
branches of the family. |
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Kenaney
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Posted: 02-Sep-2005 at 12:20 |
ibni-Sina: he whas the best in everywhere, astronomic, science, mathematics, etcetc
Piri reis; well no need to tell about him, because everyone knows him
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Hak-Khan
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Posted: 02-Sep-2005 at 12:25 |
your sources are about their languages
as i said they were buddist turks and they have a culture like indians.
(i m not in a claim that they didnt speak IE )
give me a source about their origins(i think its not a good idea that they are europian, also Indians and Pakis talks IE too)
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Hak-Khan
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Posted: 02-Sep-2005 at 12:35 |
at last ,
if they were europian
how did they came from Europe into Eastern Turkistan?
everybody knows they were Turkic, their kings have a Turkic names and their lands was in the center of Turkic territory
its a madness that they v marked as a europian
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Hak-Khan
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Posted: 02-Sep-2005 at 12:43 |
Originally posted by Oguzoglu
Hak-khan, it is a proven, well known, undiscusable
fact that Tocharians were IE. IEs were once nomads too, remember
Scythians. Please, make a research in the internet, and you'll se what
we mean.
Please hold on to the topic.
What about another Turkish contribution to history, the Ala
Turca toilette? It was a revolutionary invention if its age. People
used to dig holes in their backyards and shi* in them before that. It
was a big step of evolution for sure... |
their language was IE, but it doesnt mean their origins IE well
in other way some Turks still use Hebrew,Arabian,Russian,
Chinese,Indian languages in central asia, but they are not
europian,american, or arabian of course
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kotumeyil
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Posted: 02-Sep-2005 at 16:02 |
Hak-khan, if you want to contribute to the topic, find an undisputed contribution of Turks to science and technology. There are many of them in recent times. Nevermind Tocharians now...
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vulkan02
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Posted: 03-Sep-2005 at 13:49 |
science and technology are making this world worse and worse day by
day... so im really thinking have these nations made a positive or
negative contributions??
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The beginning of a revolution is in reality the end of a belief - Le Bon
Destroy first and construction will look after itself - Mao
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honeybee
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Posted: 13-Sep-2005 at 17:20 |
"he Chinese developed saltpeter for use in fireworks and knew of no tactical military use for gunpowder, nor did they invent its formula. Research by Reinuad and Fave have clearly shown that gunpowder was formulated initially by Muslim chemists. Further, these historians claim that the Muslims developed the first fire-arms. Notably, Muslim armies used grenades and other weapons in their defence of Algericus against the Franks during the 14th century. Jean Mathes indicates that the Muslim rulers had stock-piles of grenades, rifles, crude cannons, incendiary devices, sulfur bombs and pistols decades before such devices were used in Europe. The first mention of a cannon was in an Arabic text around 1300 A.D. Roger Bacon learned of the formula for gunpowder from Latin translations of Arabic books. He brought forth nothing original in this regard."
Thats completely wrong, firearms were used extensively by the Song, the first mention of cannons used in battle was the Yuan siege of Xiang Yang in the 13th century A.D. And yes, the name Cannon(huo pao) was mentioned. Ming soldiers had 1/5 armed with firearms. Also, if you are not keeping up with Archeology, just a year ago the earliest cannon has been uncovered that date back to around 1280. The earliest Cannon ever found.
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ill_teknique
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Posted: 14-Sep-2005 at 01:56 |
i havent been keeping up with archaelogy but this is acredited material
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Kuu-ukko
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Posted: 14-Sep-2005 at 10:54 |
Finland's contribution:
Xylitol and Margarine .
Ironic, the most common cause for deaths in Finland is heart- and
circulatory-illnesses, due to unhealthy eating. And then they go and
invent these......
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Jorsalfar
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Posted: 14-Sep-2005 at 11:50 |
And saunas right?
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Kuu-ukko
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Posted: 14-Sep-2005 at 14:15 |
I almost said it . However, some would probably point out the Roman, Turkish and Celtic baths, the American Indian sweat lodge, the Japanese furo, the Russian banja, Mexican temascal etc. (although we know for sure that banja is borrowed from Uralic people ), although the Finns have succesfully adapted the sauna to their modern lifestyle, so one could say sauna in the modern sense.
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