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HulaguHan
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Topic: an interesting question. Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 09:07 |
If we directly relate this forum to Arabia,
Please put the Turkish Empire which were established in Iran to Iranian Forum, Ottoman and Seljuks of Rum to Greco-Roman Forum, or Move all Turks to the steps forum.
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 09:06 |
What about:
A warning for you and if you continue a Ban will follow
For being Racist and Continues Insults
edited for Racisim and Insults.
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 08:39 |
Pre-Islamic Arabia and Islamic World Pre-Islamic Arabia to the Rise of Islam and the fall of the Ottomans
Sounds good.
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azimuth
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 08:33 |
Islamic World and Pre-Islamic Arabia
sounds good too since Arabian Peninsula was most of the time independent from persian and roman empies. while the Berbers were under the Romans since BC and before that they will fall under the Ancient History forum.
so the latests names are
1- Middle East and North Africa a - Pre-Islamic History to the rise of Islam until the fall of the Ottomans OR
b - Middle Easterns and North Africans, such as Arabs, Berbers, and Jews OR
c - Middle Easterns and North Africans from 1st to 19th Century AD.
2- Islamic World, Middle East and North Africa Islamic and Pre-Islamic History until the fall of the Ottomans
3- Pre-Islamic Arabia and Islamic World Pre-Islamic Arabia to the Rise of Islam to the fall of the Ottomans
4- Islamic World From the Prophet Mohammed to the fall of the Ottoman Empire
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 08:18 |
Why don't we generalise and say "Islamic world and Eastern Mediterranean et al."?
But on second thought, that's a bit limiting too.
What about "Islamic world and all regions covered before and after".
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Cyrus Shahmiri
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 08:13 |
Yes but they belonged to Persian and Roman empires before Islam, you know Iran is/was one of the largest cities of the Middle east.
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 07:56 |
pre Islamic Middle East would be better, because middle East wasnt all "Arabia" before Islam.
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 07:38 |
If you ask me this "Islamic World" is the best but it is a good suggestion to make poll.
I think the problem is just for some Arabic dynasties before Islam, so we can use "Islamic World and Pre-Islamic Arabia".
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 06:39 |
azimuth
Cengiz,he is a shame for Turks and I dont miss him, If he banned.
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 06:02 |
Please just ignore provocative posts guys,
I think the possible forum names such as "Middle East and North Africa" would be unfair to the all other middle Eastern subjects' and rulers' histories, including Romans, Turks and Persians. Middle East and Northern Africa have strong historical bonds btw other Mediterranian regions, Iran and even Central Asia. Limiting it with just Arabs, Hebrews and Berberis wont be fair at all.
I suggest something like the second option.
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 05:40 |
Cengiz Kagan, are you like a plague or something? The only posts you've written are negative and hostile against other nationalities...
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azimuth
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 05:39 |
Originally posted by Cengiz Kagan
Originally posted by Al Bedawi
why is there a Forum for Turks, and Persians but not Arabs?
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Because arabs have no idendity, history, culture etc. besides Islam.
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they had identity, hisory and culture before islam.
the thing is that Islam Came so Big that it shadowed all that.
Originally posted by Mortaza
why dont you just ban this moron?
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who is the " moron" we should ban ?
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 05:34 |
why dont you just ban this moron?
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Cengiz Kagan
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 05:31 |
Originally posted by Al Bedawi
why is there a Forum for Turks, and Persians but not Arabs?
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Because arabs have no idendity, history, culture etc. besides Islam.
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TANRI TURKU KORUSUN
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 05:29 |
ok
one of these is ok.
1- Middle East and North Africa Pre-Islamic History to the rise of Islam until the fall of the Ottomans
2- Islamic World, Middle East and North Africa Islamic and Pre-Islamic History until the fall of the Ottomans
3- Middle East and North Africa Middle Easterns and North Africans, such as Arabs, Berbers, and Jews
4- Middle East and North Africa Middle Easterns and North Africans from 1st to 19th Century AD.
5- Islamic World From the Prophet Mohammed to the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
i know the last one is the same and that for those who see that the current name is the most proper one.
or should i make a poll??
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 05:09 |
Personally I don't see anything wrong
with Islamic world and I am not sure why it should change, but that
is just my humble opinion. The term middle east and north africa
covers a lot history and it would include many of other forums in
here. You are going to use that term meaning to point to a very small
portion of middle east history which would be mis-leading, and
azimuth I am not being paranoid just
stating my opinion
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 04:49 |
we cannot satify everybody but then i meant the period in the middle east after the end of the Ancient history to the end of the 18/19th century
also Jews history is in the Ancient history and in the modern history and in between they were part of others history more or less.
so i think its better we make it clearer that we mean the period between the end of Ancient History.
Middle East and North Africa Middle Easterns and North Africans from 1st to 19th Century AD.
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 04:16 |
Before and after Islam = The whole history - Islam!
I think for satisfying both Al Bedawi and hani, we can use this one:
Middle East and North Africa Middle Easterns and North Africans, such as Arabs, Berbers, and Jews
However they were mostly ruled by Persians, Romans and Turks!
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Posted: 29-Jul-2005 at 02:05 |
Originally posted by hani
Any title that could link the pre-islamic history of people outside arabian peninsula to arab would be a misrepresentation of history. There are a lot arab nationalist web sites that do that already why would you want to change this one
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its not linking them together its just puting them in the same forum,
and you are somehow paranoid about Arabic history, the possible new title is " Middle east and north afric" where did it say Arab?? and its not even suggesting a common history all the time in history they share common part of history after islam came for sure.
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Posted: 28-Jul-2005 at 22:47 |
Any title that could link the
pre-islamic history of people outside arabian peninsula to arab would
be a misrepresentation of history. There are a lot arab nationalist
web sites that do that already why would you want to change this one
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