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    Posted: 31-Jul-2005 at 07:53

Originally posted by HulaguHan

I will post my Ottoman Empire, Safavid Empire, Seljuk Empire vs... messages to the Steps Forum.

I agreed. I will post my ottoman empire msg to steppe forum too.
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As far as this forum concerned I don't think any member should come here and request to change the forum names.after all, forum's name speaks for itself  "Allempires.com"

Although I don't think Ottomans should be included in steppes forum, I don't think it should be included in Pre-Islamic Arabia and the Islamic World either.
if Pre-Islamic Arabia get to have its own forum it would be unfair to squeeze Ottomans in this section.What does Ottoman empire has to do with pre-islamic Arabs?Or even Arabs, except the facts that hulaguhan mentioned?

I'm not requesting an Ottoman Empire forum.it's just the way it seems now...
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Originally posted by Constantine XI

Yea I want an Australian forum! And one for the New Zealanders! And one for the dinosaurs! Let's make AE as bulky and complex and user unfriendly as possible!

 

 Yeah , but Auckland and Sydney can have their own

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we are not connecting Pre-Islamic Arabia or Arabs to the Turks, this forum is about the area of the middle east and the empires and kingdom from that area, which are not all Arabs.

putting pre-islamic Arabia is for the period of history before islam in Arabia which was not always part of the Roman nor the persians. so it was independent most of the time and had its kingdoms.

other than that it is the same as before.

 
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Thanks to you people, now Ottoman Empire is given to Arabs. Safavids, Afsarids were already given to Iranians.

I will post my Ottoman Empire, Safavid Empire, Seljuk Empire vs... messages to the Steps Forum. Because Ottoman Empire has nothing concerned with Arabia. We reached the gates of beograd before the middle easterner cities. How the hell do we manage to put Ottomans here. What is the relation between Ottomans and Pre Islamic Arabia?

also Seljuks only held Syria and Iraq concerned with Arabic lands.

the Turkic Empires held parts of Arabia were Mamelukes and Ottomans, and they held just a part of it.

Isn' t this forum created for Arabs? do whatever you would like to but please move us to the steps forum. Lets change steps to Turks, Mongols, Tungus Forum. Since Iranian Nomads have their Iranic forum.

I deeply protest this decision. I was against an Islamic World Forum, now things got worse...



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Ok, I changed the title of this forum, any complain?
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ok

Agree.

 
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yes, the first one, but it should have "and the" i/o "to the" in the bold below.

1- Pre-Islamic Arabia and The Islamic World
     Pre-Islamic Arabia and the Rise of Islam to the fall of the Ottomans
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1- Pre-Islamic Arabia and Islamic World
     Pre-Islamic Arabia to the Rise of Islam  to the fall of the Ottomans

2- Pre-Islamic Arabia and Islamic World
     Pre-Islamic Arabia and the Islamic world: From the rise of Islam to the fall of the Ottomans

 

yes i gree too,  but i think the explanation should be the first one not the new one.

because the last one is not making sense  how come Pre-Islamic Arabia and Islamic world "Then" its From the rise of Islam?!!

the first one is better and its going as per the periods and it sound better.

 
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I agree!
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Pre-Islamic Arabia and Islamic World
     Pre-Islamic Arabia and the Islamic world: From the rise of Islam to the fall of the Ottomans

the discussion should be ended by now



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It is better that we give emphasis to "Islamic World".
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Originally posted by Zagros Purya

Pre-Islamic Arabia and Islamic World
     Pre-Islamic Arabia to the Rise of Islam and the fall of the Ottomans

Sounds good.

Actually:

Pre-Islamic Arabia and Islamic World
     Pre-Islamic Arabia and the Islamic world: From the rise of Islam to the fall of the Ottomans

 
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Originally posted by magavan

What about:

A warning for you and if you continue a Ban will follow 

 For being Racist and Continues Insults

 

 

edited for Racisim and Insults.

 

Azimuth a warning for ur ignorance also.

Firstly, I do not believe in different races so i'm not racist

Secondly, I believe as true: Salman Al Farsi created Quran, Islam is the last religion and the most violente sect. The notion of "Jihad" is really really primitive.

I'm sorry if you do not accept that fact. You have to respect  "mon point de vue".
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I am sorry, I recently saw it. My apologizes...
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Step Forum can be rededined as Turks, Mongols and Tungus Forum, so that we can discuss all Turks there. Heheheh...

Now Mongols are not Turks, now I managed to got it, but if we define a Turks, mongols, Tungus forum, this will be an international section. So no problems.

Ottomans will be discussed together with Mongols, the Tungus Jin Dynasty.



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Mortaza, I understood your message wring, sorry. I thought you called me idiot. EDITTED. Apologize to you, sorry...

I do not want to be in the Arabia forum, in the GReco Roman forum, in the Iranian forum.

OK Islamic World was some kinda international. But Arabia forum is NOT!!!!!



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huh? Ottomans  and seljuks of Rums Greek?

Is this new way to enter EU?

 
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magavan what about you talk just with cengiz?

It looks like you have some IQ and  similar mind.

 



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