Worst mistake in the islamic history?

The worst mistake that happened to islam is the termination of the last muslim empire. All knowledge and the civilization were not protected. All countries in the region became isolated after the elimination of the last empire.

True Ahmed. This time I say it correct, right?

Wise call.

Haha, well all kings have blood connections to their previous kings and so on. I think you typed your comment without even looking carefully to the avatar. That guy is King Faisal. We can get in argument about his role to islam in which he did a lot, but I don't have to explain his role in serving our nation his humbleness. He is not in my avatar because of his blood line, he is here because of his work and his worthiness. Otherwise, I can put the current King if i was just to support any Saudi king just for his bloodline and this will be even better for me in Saudi.  Right?

Ali, are all shia like you?  Who did say that Allah set on a chair like a human? Just stick with the Quran verse. He sets on a chair on his way. Do not complicate things. And yeah! If I will not glorify Mr. Jaafar for his bloodline, then what is left? His knoweldge? I doubt he has that . Now notice that I didn't call Jaafar a "foolish godfather" as you did to Ibn Tameyah. Sunnis think objective, Shia thinks emotional.

Last question do you mean Allah is carried by the throne?sittng on t like human?

Imam Jaafar is a great scholar by the acceptance of his era scholars and after them too except Ibn Taymyah ,and i know the Wahhabi sources it depends on Ibn Taymyah only and his followers like Ibn Qayim Aljawzia.

I think it waste of tim too because you have a foolish godfather.

It is not a blood thing it is knowledge thing if you don't know Imam Jaafar then stay in the darknees of your godfather.

Ok Pharoah, I think you didn't read all the previous posts regarding this subject. Im the one who called for a seperate thread for this because im very fanatic to the idea of sticking to the topic. I dont' like outside deviations.

Now, why didn't I started a thread for that topic by myself? because i believe some arguments are constructive, others are basically a byzantine argument. If Ali does not want to uderstand that I donit and no one does like to be called Wahabi, It is his problem. If he got mad someone calling him Khawarej by mistake, then he should be sensitive knowns too. We are Muslim Hanbil and Ibn Wahab does not owe us anything new but a reformer. I just see that his brain is just stuck, i cannot help it even if I opened the new thread .

No wonder Ibn Taymyah, may Allah be pleased with his soul, said: "You hope for a jew to become a Muslim and not for a Shia to be convinced". I will never accept the idea that someone is better than me just because he can claims he was from the prophet side only, and Ali will not accept the idea that he is stuck on glorifying people without thinking of what they say, like Mr. Jaafar with such mistakes a first year kid in a madrasah can notice. I think a new thread is a waste of time, but i only requested that to save our forumers here from the pain. ���� ���� �������� �� ������

Good, finally we will get a spicific thread for that topic.

HOLY PROPHET SAID (I AM THE CITY OF KNOWLEDGE AND ALI IT'S GATE). Where is Jaafar in this hadith? or knoweledge is inherited too with birth? Mashallah. If you are going to set and just say "but he is the grandson, he must be knoweldgable than us" you just locked your brain. No woder I don't see that many of western covert to shia (if they do exsit).

He was the beginner? I don't recall myself calling others Wahabis and refusing to understand using the term is wrong .

What accusations? I don't see a list of them, I only see the criticize there without listing the reasons. Now, you refusing to understand the verse itself that Allah is on a chair carried by 8 Angles, suggest you may have a new version of Quran maybe .

Im still waiting the new thread....

well he didnt ask you to end it

he told you to open a new thread about this.

and now iam telling you if you want open a new thread about it and you can discuss what you want there as long as you dont break any roles.

this thead is about worst mistakes in Islamic History,

and i guess that we agreed that the worst mistake was the assasination of Caliph Uthman radyallah anh.

As I said, open a new thread. Thank you