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azimuth
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Topic: Ottoman sultans Signatures Posted: 18-Jun-2005 at 06:09 |
Click the name to see the sultans tughra (monogram)
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Posted: 18-Jun-2005 at 11:51 |
I have always liked the Sultans' signatures. They are words and lettering, yet at the same time, they are very artistic and look like a picture.
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Posted: 18-Jun-2005 at 17:52 |
Well done azimuth...
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Posted: 18-Jun-2005 at 17:55 |
azimuth
Can you read that tughras?
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Posted: 19-Jun-2005 at 13:31 |
He can not read them, because they are not really (lets say completely) arabic letters.
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Posted: 24-Jun-2005 at 16:21 |
And Murtaza you would understand this fact if you were a little bit aware of Turkish history, like you compare a gang revolt in Konya with the whole Arabian peninsula revolt.
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Posted: 24-Jun-2005 at 16:42 |
And Azimuth must be unaware of Hat Arts. These are derived from Arabic letters but too much difficult to extract, if we want to be precise. These are more painting than writing.
Another Relic of the magnificent Ottoman Culture together with Ebru, Cini, Hereke Carpets, Cesmi Bulbul, Miniature.
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Posted: 24-Jun-2005 at 16:50 |
And Murtaza you would understand this fact if you were a little bit aware of Turkish history, like you compare a gang revolt in Konya with the whole Arabian peninsula revolt.
Yes I know, what is Ottoman langauge, Using a changed Arab Alphabet, but I am just curious about how much they changed. A name is easy thing, so Maybe I think he can read. Is this a big guilt?
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Posted: 24-Jun-2005 at 16:57 |
These are not really Ottoman scripture. These are like handwriting, a type of writing like painting. Sure it is influenced by Arabic letters, actually these are deformed letters, but it is something different.
I do not know the exact word to define.
Ottoman scripts were Arabic scripts just with minor changes for our language (like we did to latin now).
In Iranian forum you can see the arabic alphabet. Open the picture and try to read it.
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Posted: 24-Jun-2005 at 17:08 |
That is why I asked my friend
If I think they are just arabic, I dont need to ask this question.(And I know they are like handwriting.)
An Arab can read Arab Alphabet.
I am just curious how we changed alphabet. But It looks like we changed it much.
By the way, what is Cesmi Bulbul
I didnt hear it before.
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Posted: 27-Jun-2005 at 21:25 |
off course i can read them they are arabic letters and they are names
the art thing is littel difficul to read but not for arabs it is hard for everybody.
and HulaguHan
how did you assume that i cant read that? you didnt change the alphabet that much you know,
i can read persian and old turkish alphabet. may be there would be some pronounciation and understanding problems but that wouldn't be a major pronounciation change.
it is you who cant read that and dont even know what is it.
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Posted: 28-Jun-2005 at 22:49 |
Originally posted by azimuth
off course i can read them they are arabic letters and they are names
the art thing is littel difficul to read but not for arabs it is hard for everybody.
and HulaguHan
how did you assume that i cant read that? you didnt change the alphabet that much you know,
i can read persian and old turkish alphabet. may be there would be some pronounciation and understanding problems but that wouldn't be a major pronounciation change.
it is you who cant read that and dont even know what is it.
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I did not say it is not Arabic letters Azimuth, but like you said it is difficult. Look at my words above, I said they are Arabic letters but deformed.
Yes I can not read, because I do not know Arabic.
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