what do you think of salamn farsi?

what do you think of salman farsi?
at school we were taught that he was on of prophet mohammad's "sahabe" ( can roughly be translated "disciples" ,for non-muslems). We were told he was Iranian and we as Iranians should be proud of him cuz prophet said about him "salmano men ana va ana men salamn" means Salamn is from me and I am from salamn.
However, i read somewhere that when arabs invaded iran at the time of Omar he was arab army's guide. he was the person who led them and actually showed them the way to conquer Madaen.
is that true? If this is true, he is just a dirty traitor who betrayed his land and is not worth the prais. I wonder how arabs could trust someone who betrayed his own people.
what do you think????

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In my Openion he was big traitor, who had lead enemy to his mother land

Salman al farci was a zoroastrian traitor who taught to Mohamad the basis of Islam. Salman al farci created Islam and gave cultures to those savage arabs.

That nationalism was not common at that times. And even I will put my religion prior to my blood. He did what he think right as just all honorful man.

Originally posted by magavan Salman al farci was a zoroastrian traitor who taught to Mohamad the basis of Islam. Salman al farci created Islam and gave cultures to those savage arabs.

Magavan, I've got a friendly challenge for you; Can you write a post wihtout using the words "Zoroastrism" and "Vedism"? Salman was a man looking for a new faith. He became a Manichean, a Christian, and then Muslim. I don't think he considered being Muslim is equal to being Arab. Mohammad and his family trusted him, and I know that Arabs didn't like him.

@ Land of Aryan
are we sure that the notion of "Mother land" did actually make sense back then? Is this not a sort of teleological reasoning?

I think the defeat of the Sasanian Army did not mean the defeat of Iranians. I doubt if people had a notion of a "national" government back then. I imagine that for local people, the Sasanians were yet another government, and when they got too tyranical and parasitic, people would not have minded removing them.

I agree that later, when people realised that what they get was Umayyad Caliphs and Hajja ibn Yusef, then they did develop a sort of culture based resistance. And you know Arabs couldn't apply Islam to Iranians, Iranians became Muslims in time of Samanids and Safavids.


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Why kafir?

Up to the rise of Samanids, Iranian people were not using Arabic names I am sure of that. About the religion I do not know. This is an interesting subject and i will look more into it.

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& Thanks god , all Humans aren't ARAB, If they were, still grave their girls, still victimize own son to god, still were in desert follow Lizards, still burn books & says we have Quran

Originally posted by azimuth yes sure he was the real mohammed. he also created christanity judaisim and all other religions. everthing came from iran , iran is the world and the world is iran. human are actully iranian and then they became humans.

Why not????

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@Mortaza

We didn't say Islam comes From Iran,

This aricle was about Salman Farsi & his hand in Islam.

Did you have read all Posts???

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Originally posted by ramin Originally posted by magavan Salman al farci was a zoroastrian traitor who taught to Mohamad the basis of Islam. Salman al farci created Islam and gave cultures to those savage arabs. Magavan, I've got a friendly challenge for you; Can you write a post wihtout using the words "Zoroastrism" and "Vedism"? Salman was a man looking for a new faith. He became a Manichean, a Christian, and then Muslim. I don't think he considered being Muslim is equal to being Arab. Mohammad and his family trusted him, and I know that Arabs didn't like him.

Ramin you are so ignorant, Vedism created zoroastrism, Zoroastrism created Islam, this is an evidence. We call that evolution...

Salman Al farci grew up in a zoroastrian family. Each monotheist concept is plagia of zoroastrism...

Thank you Magavan

about Salman refer to " Quran Nahl 103 "
name of Salman & Islam & Salam has same orgin come from Sa,La,ma
basic samples for debt of Islam from Iran:

1. 5 pray (namaz) of Muslim is copy from 5 pary of Zartoshtian even in the same times of day

2. " Ashhado ana la elaha ela Allah  v ashhado ana Mohmmad rasol Allah " = " man aghrar daram v ostovaram bedin Mazdisni ke mokhalefe dive parasti ast v Zartosht avarande in kish Ahoraei ast" both with same Translation = " I Confess to God & Zartosht/Mohamad is messenger from God "

3. " Besme Allah alrhman e alrahim " = " be nam Izad bakhshande va mehraban " same traslation too = " in the name of compassionate & Merciful God "

3. Equality of women & men in Iran, cause to save arab girls life who graved by her father, but still woman is 1/2 man in Islam

4. Equality of people, first raised by Mazdak

5. Serat Birdge in Islam = Chinvat bridge in Avesta

6. Mehrabe with(�) was place to Praise of Mitra ,in Islam become Mehrab with(�) & means " place of war " but still is place for pray!!!!

7. Ghadr nights debted from our Yalda night
...

Christendom debts:
1. Xmas night = Mitra Birthday
2. noel pine = Aryan Cedar
3. Halovin night = Zartoshtian's deads night
...

in most of religions one man will come & eliminate tyranny & will govern with justice
first found at Zarvan openion is Mitra, then in Zartoshtism is Soshiant, in Islam is Mahdi

Resurrection day first come from Zarvan & then Zartosht

Paradise = Pardis ,& hell too

Compare "Cyrus the great behaviour to outsiders & most Important Jews", with Muslims behaviour with outsiders as us, They bayonet us to accept Relagion or leave land or pay ransom.

& more......

refer to " 23 sal " & " Quran Sordehei be sabke Parsi " & "az Mitra ta Mohammad " Books & http://ayeen-avesta.blogspot.com/