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Topic: what do you think of salamn farsi? Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 04:53 |
Originally posted by murtaza
So we believe in a iranic religion? This is complately a insult to us.
What name did you give your this new ideas? Sun theory? Need help? |
Every things intended to Iran insult you & Oguzoglu & Kenaney.
Safavid is Insult to you Saka is Insult to you Molana is Insult to you Amazon is Insult to you Turanian is Insult to you I am Insult to you Magevan is Insult to you anyway name of IRAN is Insult to you
Yes I'm Patriot, & I'll not be quiet about IRAN
Oguzoglu Deny Chaldoran Battle Kenaney revile us in the tourism advertiseing at satellite channel, you use our Partia Statue. what about your glorious Mongol fathers bloodbath at Nishabor, Isfahan, Kerman, Sabzevar,... These aren't insult to you?????
Yes, These are Insult to me, but I never offensive you.
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Murtaza
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 05:02 |
Pah, My friend I dont care about history. Past is past. Reality is both of us is poor and pathetic countries.
But I realy no intent of believing an iranian religion. Infact
You should realy think about sun theory.
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 05:28 |
One night the Persian scribe had a dream in which he was hovering above the figure of Mohammad the Prophet's cave on Mount Cone....[It] struck him that his point of view had been that of the arch-angel, and at that moment the memory of the incident of the Satanic verses came back to him as vividly as if the thing had happened the previous day. "Maybe I hadn't dreamed of myself as Gibreel," Salman recounted. "Maybe I was Shaitan [Satan]." The realization of this possibility gave him his diabolic idea. After that, when he sat at the Prophet's feet, writing down rules rules rules, he began, surreptitiously, to change things. "Little things at first. If Mohammad recited a verse in which God was described as all-hearing, all-knowing, I would write, all-knowing, all-wise. Here's the point: Mohammad did not notice the alterations. So there I was, actually writing the book, polluting the word of God with my own profane language. But, good heavens, if my poor words could not be distinguished from the Revelation by God's own messenger, then what did that mean? What did that say about the quality of the divine poetry? Look, I swear, I was shaken to my soul....I was writing the Revelation and nobody was noticing, and I didn't have the courage to own up. I was scared silly, I can tell you. Also: I was sadder than I have ever been. Ahmed Rushdie (Salman)

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Murtaza
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 05:53 |
I think Iranians are more ultranationalist than any race. I have no problem with iranians. But this is realy realy becoming comic. And when they thin Islam came from Iran, It becomes also boring. Do you realy believe Islam? I will not believe a religion which cames from a man.
Ahmed Rushdie (Salman)? will we realy care about what this guy write? I think even Iranians dont like him much. It looks like the Iranian member of this post are not much relation with iranians. Or all iran think like this?
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 07:07 |
Islam as tokhme Iran miad, Donia as tokhme Iran miad.
Everything in this world come from arya-vaeja / Arya-varta.
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Cyrus Shahmiri
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 07:51 |
lol magavan, don't make it "racist"! 
Murtaza, "living under an Islamic state" has had a big effect on Iranians, it is a fact that some Iranians really hate Islam and some others try to make it Iranian! 
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 08:08 |
Originally posted by magavan
Islam as tokhme Iran miad, Donia as tokhme Iran miad.
Everything in this world come from arya-vaeja / Arya-varta.
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yea whatever
you are like what? a 0.000000000001% in the world who thinks like this so i dont think there is any reason for me to care about what you think.
i wonder how much you hate the french you live in their country. and that you who gave them this "Donya"

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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 08:24 |
Originally posted by magavan
Islam as tokhme Iran miad, Donia as tokhme Iran miad.
Everything in this world come from arya-vaeja / Arya-varta.
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Donia doesn't come form Iranian because it is an Arabic word! 
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 08:27 |
I always think Dunya is a Turkish word
Infact I dont care if they hate islam, Or If they change their religion.
But pls dont change my religion.
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 08:50 |
Dear Murtaza,
fortunately (or maybe unfortunately) this is the way 90% of iranians think. islam is dead in iran. what you hear from the media of the islamic government is all fake, absolue sham. I have had some friends from other islamic countries who were studying in Iran and were really shocked at the reality that they saw in Tehran's streets.
too much different from the picture that they had in mind about iran, which had been made by the iranian and western media. if you had lived under the so called islamic regim of iran and had wasted the best years of your life under cruel Mullas who commit all crime in the name of Allah, you would think the same.
so please do not judge them and don't blame them
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 11:14 |
Where are you from kiyumars?
My friends gran used to think Mohamad and Ali were Iranian. people who want to be muslim have a right to be as much as people who do not. What I hate is when people try to impose their religious beliefs or lack thereof on others.
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 15:29 |
Purya,
i'm not trying to impose anything on anyone.
I just gave some info. on the current state of islam in iran esp. among iranian youth. You most probably have lived all your life in the UK but i have lived all my life in iran. i have been living in austria for only a year. so i think i am at a position to comment about this issue after 30 years of living under the terrifying reign of mullas.
i know living in a free democratic country has made you a
a person who belives in the so called speech freedom and the stuff and you feel shocked at comments like this.
but i'm not a UK educated individual .I'm a mullah reign product. so don't blame me.
If you don't beleive me pay a visit to your mother land and witness. By the way, when was the last time you were in Iran?
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 15:41 |
kiyumars
Do this justify for destroying islam itself(making it Iranic,Iranian or what ever)?
I am not blaming anyone, but noone have right to destroy my religion too.
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 15:42 |
Originally posted by kiyumars
cruel Mullas who commit all crime in the name of Allah
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Can you give us a couple examples of things Mullahs have done that are contradictory to the teachings of their religion
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 15:42 |
No, I wasnt actually referring to you with my statement, it was just my general belief i was stating, and I am aware of the situation in Iran and I am not shocked by what u say.
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 15:46 |
I take with a pinch of salt a Turkish person saying Iranians are the most ultra-nationalist. Iranians have never banned the language and culture of their ethnic groups that's why all are still alive today in Iran, is the same true in Turkey?
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 15:48 |
Zagros Purya
If what people write is true, You are trying to destroy a religion because It is not a iranic religion.
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 16:07 |
Are they destroying a religion, or are you trying to make your own custom made religion and call it Islam
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 16:14 |
Not me, I advocate religious freedom. Kiyumars is wrong, most people in Iran, if you ask their religion say they are Muslim, even if they do not practice the religion and drink and do other unIslamic things.
Islam is a part of Iran and anyone who denies it is deluded.
Look at the young people here advocating Rafsanjani for the elections, they do not look like obedient and pure muslims like the man they advocate, but I bet if u ask them what their relgiion is they will tell you Muslim.
I personally have no religion and am agnostic, but facts are facts.
The correct thing to say is that Political Islam is dead in iran.
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Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 16:15 |
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