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    Posted: 14-Jul-2013 at 20:19
'' [I assume the extra 'c' in Scilly was put in so as to be less derogatory to the islanders' behaviour?!] ''


What if any egregious behavior required this...do you know?

I mean were they running around nekid carrying on in the surf? or chasing goats for deviant purposes ala a bacchanalia?

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According to William Camden's 'Britannia' (1586) the islands were called 'Silurum Insula' by Solinus (3rd Century AD), and 'Sylina Insula' by Sulpitius Severus (d.425 AD). The Dutch apparently called them the Sorlings and the English called them the Silly (or Sylly) Isles. [I assume the extra 'c' in Scilly was put in so as to be less derogatory to the islanders' behaviour?!] Camden seems to make some connection between the name and the tribe of Silures in South Wales.

Sulis Minerva was a local goddess at Bath, in Somerset. Some suggest the word Scilly derives from 'sulleh' meaning divided, or rock.

But the folk of the islands themselves believed the name Scilly was derived from the Cornish word for conger-eel: 'selli'. Interestingly 'silure' (as in Silurum Insula) is a name for the catfish.

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a source says it is uncertain what the origin is and that one of a number of theories is that it relates to goddess/god Sulis.


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  Quote TheAlaniDragonRising Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jun-2013 at 15:48
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis

Interesting Alani...is it Latin? And if so did the isle of Sully off Cardiff get the same name for a similar reason. Because there are conflicts of interest in definition there. More importantly as the Western seaboard of Britain to include the Bristol channel may or may no be 'sunny'.

What then was the reference/name alluding to? Sunshine on the islands. Topo features...climate?

The Romans called it Sully, so Latin, yep. As for the isle near Cardiff, as the nearby village of Sully too, might have its origin with a Norman called Sir Reginald de Sully, or even from the Welsh term Sili, which may have meant South Lea, or South Pasture.


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Interesting Alani...is it Latin? And if so did the isle of Sully off Cardiff get the same name for a similar reason. Because there are conflicts of interest in definition there. More importantly as the Western seaboard of Britain to include the Bristol channel may or may no be 'sunny'.

What then was the reference/name alluding to? Sunshine on the islands. Topo features...climate?
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  Quote TheAlaniDragonRising Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jun-2013 at 14:03
The name Scilly comes from  Sully, meaning sun isles.
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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jun-2013 at 11:07
Colloquial vernacular.


Look up the 'Llano Estacado' and you will see why.

Besides, nobody worth their salt, north of Lubbock, would be caught dead using 'they're.' They would assume and note the miscreant as attempting to 'putting on airs'. Hence utterly disregard both his or her physical presence and any further utterance of speech.

Can you possibly imagine how it would feel for a native let alone a visitor to be termed a miscreant?

And you thought Bush 43's, use of 'shock and awe' was intimidating.


Child's play...compared to the disdain that would be bestowed on such a rapscallion that attempted to appear a superior.
Trust me...I know. As I was not only born and lived there. But from there went on and obtained multiple advanced university accolades. And can still eat buttered grits with the best of them.



Amen.


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  Quote TITAN_ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jun-2013 at 04:32
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis

Dunno Sid..... they been called different things at different times.

cassiterides
scillonia insula
ennor
syllan
lyonesse

but their pretty. got a great history and iirc, remain royal properties or at least part, of the ole 'duc de cornwall'

Dunno instead of don't know Ouch
they been instead of they have been
their instead of they 're
ole instead of old  etc.

Why? Shocked

By the way, the legend of Lyonesse resembles that of Atlantis.... The sinking city and everything...
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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jun-2013 at 18:29
Dunno Sid..... they been called different things at different times.

cassiterides
scillonia insula
ennor
syllan
lyonesse

but their pretty. got a great history and iirc, remain royal properties or at least part, of the ole 'duc de cornwall'
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  Quote Sidney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jun-2013 at 17:38
The Isles of Scilly lie off the west coast of Cornwall, but what does the 'Scilly' derive from? There doesn't seem to be a clear answer. Is it a Cornish word? Anyone know?

Edited by Sidney - 29-Jun-2013 at 17:38
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