Snowden's Father: Son Would Return for US Espionag

I'm not comfortable calling a whistle blower - protected by Federal law - a traitor.  The anger coming from the White House seems to be based on his revealing illegal actions on the part of the government, and my feelings have always been that if the government does not obey its own laws, there is no valid reason for the citizenry to do so either.

So why did Snowden flee?  Because under our current "laws", people can be made to disappear forever without access to charges, counsel or any of the guaranteed Constitutional rights for someone labeled as "traitor" by an administration with a great deal to hide.

The government has a great many questions to answer before pointing fingers or making accusations.  Until then, Snowden remains merely a whistle blower to me, keeping in mind that security leaks are as commonplace in the American government as cups of coffee and therefore many congressmen, senators and White House officials also qualify as "traitors".  We could start with AG Holder, who openly gave "aid and comfort" to the enemies of America - the narco-terrorists of the Mexican drug cartels.

Just my humble opinion...

A quote from Mr. Morales-

Yep well seeing how there Pres is a big proponent of sales of coca plants no big loss. USAID already got the boot so.....as did the DEA so no loss.

Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis ...no big loss.

Much adoo about very little.  These programs Snowden blew thw whistle on,  I thought they were common knowledge.  A little clear thought about "Intercepts" and "Chatter", and you have to know this intell is coming from some where. 

Kid has to fix "painful" coming in USA.Otherway His life will look miserable no matter where he goes,

"Bl. Make no threats and don't say the wrong thing"

What is the wrong thing? How can anyone tell if "the wrong thing" was said seriously or as a joke?

Ok, let's do a test: Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb.

(counting seconds before someone comes crashing through my door: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.....50... still nothing).

Snowden try to be decent citizen where it is not allowed.When you join agency main rule is:What comes here stays here no matter of content in it.Even Fifth amandment can not help here:He brakes rule of secrecy so he is trairor.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/traitor

Edited by medenaywe - 10-Jul-2013 at 00:42

If it appears I'm taking this lightly, it may be that having grown up during the peak of the Cold War,



nah. Realistically perhaps with a touch of the 'Joisey' cynic. Not unlike those on the Llano.

Nor do I dispute previous occurrences and or previous typical native reaction. The American sheeple can't remember shit past 48 hours except whether they're going to get a welfare check on time.

What gnaws the bone... is the typical reaction of the anarchists and anti-American bashers who believe their moral outrage is new, refreshing and of superior importance. As if this outrage is or has not been occurring for the first time, reference nation x spying on nation y.

Not only shows their lack of knowledge of the historiography of intelligence gathering. But their delusional acceptance it should not be done....by anyone.....let alone the great satan. Or their vapid denial that it's being done by their own state.

Or even when they do that; they adopt the Rodney King mantra of ''why can't we just all get along''. While mouthing platitudes of meaningless speech that neither are relevant given the current context of the subject matter or that versus the concerns of a democratic free state's liberties.

As usual, they will be the first to disappear into the death camps. And somebody else will be required to spend blood and treasure to ensure the memory of their vacuous rhetoric is acknowledged and that they existed at all.



Treal truth afaic, in the recent American experience, is that the creation of the FISA courts while nominally an excellent idea to expedite the collection and analysation process....were not adequately provided with follow on congressional oversight.

What in fact occurred; is that congress and the various administrations have ducked the issue for political expediency's sake. And allowed an erosion of the Constitution; in favor of courts of jurisdiction, that essentially have no oversight.

FISA courts were not designed nor intended to replace the executive and congressional duties required and mandated by those branches of government. To ensure a balance between national security issues and policy and civil liberties.

But the gutless frackers have done it anyway.

Fugitive Snowden to Seek Temporary Asylum in Russia


That headline says it all.
A newborn commie...deluded into thinking civil rights in Russia or socialist states in S. America are better then at home.
Broke the law. Suffer the consequences.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat a fracking idiot.


http://www.voanews.com/content/reu-snowden-to-seek-temporary-asylum-in-russia/1700503.html