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    Posted: 10-Jun-2013 at 07:30
I have remembered a discussion about  changing national flag in Australia. What happened? Why they stopped?

They are several good flags which were created for that event

 

 




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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jun-2013 at 13:37
Is it plastic as their $?!?Big smile
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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jun-2013 at 14:45
No govt action since 94, iirc.
Different bills have been shut down since 83-96 by coalition PM's.
Latest poll shows sharp decline in favoritism hence interest.

"Clear Majority Want to Keep the Australian Flag". Roymorgan.com. 2010-05-13.
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  Quote Ollios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jun-2013 at 15:32
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis


"Clear Majority Want to Keep the Australian Flag". Roymorgan.com. 2010-05-13.

I am sad to hear that. Today, they are looking like a country under the mandate

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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jun-2013 at 17:56
All countries have pasts Ollios. You know this. And many were dominated by others. Australia's includes 'primarily' that of Britain up to and including today. From it's settlement by British colonialists, prisoners, etc. Their history is Britain and native. And while like any other nation they are hosts to many immigrants and varying cultural assimilations...the Aussie's right now must still like that Union Jack.

The shame is not the flag... but how the natives were treated for so many years by the conquerors. Because at some point cultural diversity from a liberal, socialist, mentality viewpoint would often do away with the historical record. Merely to be 'politically current' in the current era's definition.

Denial of a nation's history to be 'pc' is bullshit amigo.

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  Quote lirelou Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jun-2013 at 22:36
CV, in re: "would often do away with the historical record."

And what was the historical record? I'm one who believes that the Aussies don't have anything to apologize for.

ps, back in the 30s and 40s, the original Aussie standard was the Red Ensign and not the Blue one that flies today.

Edited by lirelou - 10-Jun-2013 at 22:39
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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jun-2013 at 22:50
It's not a question of apologizing LL. That's for moralist, whiners, theologians and philosophers. It's a question of remembering history good and bad and acknowledging the influence of the British empire in Aussieland.

The pc wacks down there as a result of a misguided sense of cultural diversity wanted to incorporate a 'gay pride' 'black liberation theology' type, emblem representative of all cultures in the flag as I understood it.

Not necessary. But it's their's not mine.

And as you well know...ya known me for a while now; I admit to the poor treatment of the abos from a moral perspective as a human being with a sense of morality.... even tho not often voiced. But as a historian, I know damn well that wasn't the only place it ever occurred. And I understand the contextual reasons why as well.

Otoh, I don't confuse either with the record or attempt to obfuscate it with a pre arranged agenda of what ever type...good or bad. I merely know their both part of the record.

And that's the gawdamn story I'm sticking with eh. lol.

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  Quote Ollios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Jun-2013 at 04:53
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis

All countries have pasts Ollios. You know this. And many were dominated by others. Australia's includes 'primarily' that of Britain up to and including today. From it's settlement by British colonialists, prisoners, etc. Their history is Britain and native. And while like any other nation they are hosts to many immigrants and varying cultural assimilations...the Aussie's right now must still like that Union Jack.

The shame is not the flag... but how the natives were treated for so many years by the conquerors. Because at some point cultural diversity from a liberal, socialist, mentality viewpoint would often do away with the historical record. Merely to be 'politically current' in the current era's definition.

Denial of a nation's history to be 'pc' is bullshit amigo.

Amen.

Actually a like flag of UK, it is combination of flag of Scotland and England, but I still don't like Australian version. Maybe it is because of it is not looking like a normal flag. As I told before it doesn't look like a flag of independent country.

Flag of British India                                                   Flag of British Australia
  
Flag of Australia


I don't deny their past. This way is better, I think

Flag of Armenia                                                     Flag of Nagorno Karabakh
 
 

The flag of Nagorno Karabakh is looking like more normal, but they are not recognised country. 

This is Australian flag, not mine. these are just my ideas. I can be obsessive in some issues.Big smile

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One interesting informaton about Australia Flag of States. Nearly all of them are similar without Northern territory (32% of its population is Aborigine, this is the highest percent between Austalian states)






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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Jun-2013 at 10:53
They are pretty. I'll give them that. On the subject, what's
the history behind the flags of Turkey? Perhaps you might expand on it and give your opinion.



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