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    Posted: 23-Jan-2013 at 05:30


An ebook I read says he was actually a Black African and that the original Canaanites/Phoenicians were Blacks.




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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Jan-2013 at 05:41
Hannibal&Phoenicians were Hindu people from my point of view.Color of skin is out of dicussion in this forum.Obama is president of USA cause He can be that,cause of his abilities, not cause of His color.I warn you that further posts in this way will be considered racial and banned.Thanks.
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Jan-2013 at 07:44
It's more likely Hannibal's ancestors were Semites who migrated to North Africa from what is now Palestine (presumably to escape the Israelites). DNA test a Carthaginian skeleton, and you will have your answer
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Jan-2013 at 14:55
Noah cursed his grandson Canaan with perpetual slavery, but there's no mention of his skin turning black. However, the first murderer Cain was given a "mark" to set him apart from his family. Some people believe this was black skin but, again, the bible doesn't say so


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  Quote Sidney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Jan-2013 at 16:24
If Hannibal was a Black African, what difference would it make to his achievements? If the Carthaginians had been a Black nation, what difference would it make to their place in history? I don't see how anything would change.

Anyway, the coin shown in the linked article actually proves that Hannibal was an elephant. There were lots of elephants in North Africa, and almost all 'Hannibal' coins show an elephant on them, so that proves it.
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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Jan-2013 at 00:36
There are lot of elephants in India also Sidney.SmileThat is my point above:here we speak about character's
roles&personalities in History not about color of skin.Before Mandela South Africa has had white presidents.

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If he existed, which I personally doubt, and have not yet been shown any evidence so far to prove otherwise, then we can be sure of one thing, he probably wasn't white. Could he have been black with the Carthaginian speaking a Semitic language, actually yes there's a possibility. Could he have been the product of a mixed relation, again there's a possibility.  
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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Jan-2013 at 01:35
As it looks we all spoke one or similar languages Alani.Residuals of it we use inside our languages today:brick
layers of sounds&syllables are all around!SmileWere Ancient Hindu people more black than today?Let us give to genetic chance to say something about it.Big smile
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Jan-2013 at 10:43
Originally posted by Sidney

If Hannibal was a Black African, what difference would it make to his achievements? If the Carthaginians had been a Black nation, what difference would it make to their place in history? I don't see how anything would change.

Anyway, the coin shown in the linked article actually proves that Hannibal was an elephant. There were lots of elephants in North Africa, and almost all 'Hannibal' coins show an elephant on them, so that proves it.

No wonder he kicked the Romans' butts whenever they attacked himLOL
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  Quote TheAlaniDragonRising Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Jan-2013 at 11:15
Originally posted by medenaywe

As it looks we all spoke one or similar languages Alani.Residuals of it we use inside our languages today:brick
layers of sounds&syllables are all around!SmileWere Ancient Hindu people more black than today?Let us give to genetic chance to say something about it.Big smile
Though I have little doubt that we might have all spoken a similar language at one time, I'm not too sure as to any real evidence as to what that language may be. Any ideas from you, medenaywe? As for there being a Hindu connection here with the Sumerians, do you have any links, and evidence to the belief of such a connection?
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Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising

If he existed, which I personally doubt, and have not yet been shown any evidence so far to prove otherwise, then we can be sure of one thing, he probably wasn't white. Could he have been black with the Carthaginian speaking a Semitic language, actually yes there's a possibility. Could he have been the product of a mixed relation, again there's a possibility.  


There is about a zero percent chance he was even part black. Didn't exist? Here the burden of proof lies on you.
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Nov-2013 at 22:28
"If he existed, which I personally doubt, and have not yet been shown any evidence so far to prove otherwise, then we can be sure of one thing, he probably wasn't white. Could he have been black with the Carthaginian speaking a Semitic language, actually yes there's a possibility. Could he have been the product of a mixed relation, again there's a possibility."

By just what proofs can you make the above statement? Other than his existence the rest of your post is merely bunkum! We cannot be sure of anything regarding the past since most of it is hearsay, etc.!

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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Nov-2013 at 22:31
"It's more likely Hannibal's ancestors were Semites who migrated to North Africa from what is now Palestine (presumably to escape the Israelites). DNA test a Carthaginian skeleton, and you will have your answer"

It is just as likely that he was Phoenician or Greek or Italian or even a Goth or Vandal!

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  Quote yomud Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Dec-2013 at 06:15
what do you mean "what if hanibal was black " imagine if he was black what do you think will change ?Angry
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Dec-2013 at 21:47
Well young yomud, just why should he be of Black African ancestry?   What evidence supports that idea? And if you have evidence, is it first hand or secondary, or less?

You must know that on the continent of Africa there were as our currently accepted chronology accepts, numerous variations of human colors and languages. But, continue if you have a good point!

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  Quote yomud Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jan-2014 at 14:07
i didn't say he is black or white  the question start with " what IF " im complain about the question it feel a racial question hannibal is hannibal what ever he is black or white it wont change his commanding skill

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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jan-2014 at 18:46
Thank you yomud! It is nice to receive a compliment! But whether it "red or yellow, black or white", his story is forever.

But was he real? Perhaps he was merely a good story?

From the movie; "I am Hannibal!"

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  Quote Mountain Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jan-2014 at 18:47
What difference would it make to history?

None.
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jan-2014 at 18:57
What a great post Sidney and Mountain Man! LOL You hit the nail on the head!!

Ron

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Originally posted by medenaywe

Hannibal&Phoenicians were Hindu people from my point of view.Color of skin is out of dicussion in this forum.Obama is president of USA cause He can be that,cause of his abilities, not cause of His color.I warn you that further posts in this way will be considered racial and banned.Thanks.


This is your opinion only!! I don't see any racialism in describing a person as a Black African or Negro, to differentiate them from North Africans, such as Egyptians who are not Negroid. In order to decide whether or not a comment is racist, one must first consider the context in which the term is used. After seeing the stuff you post, I think your comments are overbearing and dictatorial.
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