English language began in Turkey

Originally posted by Ollios Sorry, if I am wrong. I have taken the words(Anna-Atta) from this web site http://www.utexas.edu/cola/centers/lrc/eieol/hitol-BF-X.html

As in the Sumerian mother goddess Inanna (also known as Ishtar)

Originally posted by yomud Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri medenaywe, words and their meanings change through time, "Nana" is a modern Persian word, in the Middle and Old Persian this word was probably more similar to "Hanna", there could be also several different reasons that people create the words, for example someone can say "Na" means "mother" and "Nana" means "mother's mother" (grandmother). as iranian turkmen i say this not true persians dont have nana word at all its turkish word they call mother madar and father pedar grandmother madarbozorg grand father perdarbozorg so where is nana in modern persian ? it is tukish u know it better than me ! turkmens call there fahter dada and mother nana (enne atta) grand parents from mother side is baba (bava) and mama and from my father side is kaka(grandfather) and ejea (grandmother) plz dont do this again

In my dialect of Kurmanji Kurdish we use the word Kake for father and grandfather.  Also Atte is also used for mother by some as well.    The speakers of my dialect are Alevis, I suspect it might be a Turkish influence.  But never heard Turks in Turkey use Kake for father or grandfather. 

Originally posted by yomud as iranian turkmen i say this not true persians dont have nana word at all its turkish word they call mother madar and father pedar grandmother madarbozorg grand father perdarbozorg so where is nana in modern persian ? it is tukish u know it better than me ! turkmens call there fahter dada and mother nana (enne atta) grand parents from mother side is baba (bava) and mama and from my father side is kaka(grandfather) and ejea (grandmother) plz dont do this again

There are certainly numerous Turkic words in the modern Persian language and for this reason some people use the word "Nana" for "mother" but I don't talk about modern Persian, according to my Persian dictionary, "Nana" means "grandmother" from its Persian origin, the Persian word "Ania" (Nia/Niakan) which means "ancestor" has the same origin, it has an Indo-European root, like Armenian "Han" (grandmother), German "Ahn" (ancestor), Old Prussian "Ane" (mother-in-law), ...

How much consideration has been given to the use of latin with the spread of words like mother and father....etc....?

Originally posted by yomud Originally posted by Ince Originally posted by yomud Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri medenaywe, words and their meanings change through time, "Nana" is a modern Persian word, in the Middle and Old Persian this word was probably more similar to "Hanna", there could be also several different reasons that people create the words, for example someone can say "Na" means "mother" and "Nana" means "mother's mother" (grandmother). as iranian turkmen i say this not true persians dont have nana word at all its turkish word they call mother madar and father pedar grandmother madarbozorg grand father perdarbozorg so where is nana in modern persian ? it is tukish u know it better than me ! turkmens call there fahter dada and mother nana (enne atta) grand parents from mother side is baba (bava) and mama and from my father side is kaka(grandfather) and ejea (grandmother) plz dont do this again In my dialect of Kurmanji Kurdish we use the word Kake for father and grandfather.  Also Atte is also used for mother by some as well.    The speakers of my dialect are Alevis, I suspect it might be a Turkish influence.  But never heard Turks in Turkey use Kake for father or grandfather.  im not from turkey i live in gonbad kavus ( old gorgan ) and im iranian . where do u live ? dyarbak ? iraq ? and atta means father like other tukish languge

I am from Malatya,Turkey.   Atte is used for Mother in my dialect of Kurdish but only by some and Alek as well by some also used is the most common Kurdish word for mother Daye.  

For father we use Bave/Bawe and also Kake/Kako.  I have only ever heard people of dialect use Kake/Kako for father.  If it is used by Turkmens then it is very likely came from Turkic influence.

Most Kurdish dialects have abandonded the Iranic root for mother and father for some reason and adopted words like Daye and Bawe where as the Iranic rooted are Mader and Peder which Persian has retained.

these words are commin wtih turkmens and germens and english or some european

turkmen             german    english    italiyan     persian    istanbul turkish     tabriz turkish

pomozor            Pflaume    plum       pomozor    goje           erik                        gavalı
kertob/kortob   Kartoffel    Potato     patata      sibzamini    patates          yeralma(commen in all tr )
bulut                Wolke        Cloud       nuvola      abr             bulut                    bulut
eth/es/iys/iyth    Geruch      smell       odore         bu              koku                   iy
alma                    Apfel      Apple       mela          siyb            alma                     alma

Originally posted by yomud as iranian turkmen i say this not true persians dont have nana word at all its turkish word they call mother madar and father pedar grandmother madarbozorg grand father perdarbozorg so where is nana in modern persian ? it is tukish u know it better than me ! turkmens call there fahter dada and mother nana (enne atta) grand parents from mother side is baba (bava) and mama and from my father side is kaka(grandfather) and ejea (grandmother) plz dont do this again

Your Turkmen-Sahra Türkmen? Very nice to have you on board.

In Azeri Turkish its as following: Ata for father, Ana for mother, Baba/Dədə for grandfather and Nənə/Qarınənə for grandmother.









Edited by Qaradag - 06-Oct-2012 at 03:24