Was the cult of Great Mother exchanged with Jesus?

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 I am trying to be objective about this subject and will ask:When&Why did they put mother's(blade) obelisk in front of St.Peter's Basilica than Cyrus?(It was there in 1630,it has been there from the beginning!)
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/italy/rome-st-peters-basilica-photos/slides/1630-painting-by-viviano-codazzi
Pope needed Mother's help as it looks?!?
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But I though the Egyptian obelisks were phallic symbols  http://www.jwu.edu/uploadedFiles/Documents/Academics/JWUHonPaperTheObeliskDNV.pdf connected with the "sacred autoerotism" cult of Amun /who created everything through such an act/, and the said obelisk came from Egypt:
"...In the center of the square is a 25.5-meter-tall obelisk, which dates from 13th-century BC Egypt and was brought to Rome in the 1st century to stand in Nero's Circus some 275 yards away...."
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/italy/rome-st-peters-basilica

The Romans called them "Cleopatra's needles" because they had no idea what was done in the temple of Amun in Karnak  here is a video about it, http://www.sexualecstasy.org/  and just as a warning, one has to be over 18 to see it, but it's a historical movie, ignore the name of the cite.  The video is on the first page, "Karnak-Hidden History", a BBC production.

Anyway, the obelisks are not  female symbols, at least not  in the way they were seen in Egypt. If the way they were seen later changed, I'm not aware of such change, and would welcome some info about it, thanks in advance.



Edited by Don Quixote - 27-Jan-2012 at 01:45

Originally posted by medenaywe Romans knew what  they were:needles or blades!Only Mother Goddess had Blade in Her arm!Control of Mother's arm was very powerful idea for Egyptian pharaohs as it looks.It was for Rome also.

Well, I actually like that version better, being a Mother-Goddess fan; but all the sources I read on that give the obelisk as a phallic symbol for the Egyptians.
It's possible that the Romans changed their meaning, interpreting them as needles/blades; but was Isis ever portrayed with blades?
If the blade meaning is accepted, then it would play in my corner of cultural stereotypes and the Virgin being a Mother Goddess; hence the blades becoming a tool conjuring the power of the Great Mother/Virgin Mary for the uses and needs of the Pope and the princes of the church.

Originally posted by medenaywe I am a source!Take this as preparation for a book&documentary here!Let us make it objective!No religion No nationalities inside,just a truth about roots of ours!

You seriously are writing a book, medenaywe? That's interesting, when it comes out how can we get a copy of it?

Originally posted by medenaywe You will receive with subscription:Devoted to Don!Objectivity and scientific approach are objectives,I am stretching for!And believe me sources about it,have been systematically destroyed for 20 and more centuries after.I have 32 rows of text,our languages as they are today/were in near past,a lot of refurbished history all around!Therefore all it looks as puzzle's draw rebus in which I have to reconstruct parts that are missing! P.S. I want to send this man book also cause he has wished me good luck after I asked  him for 1:1 photo  replica of stone without sending me nothing($ were not questioned here),cause i solved inscriptions with "telepathy". http://www.freemaninstitute.com/rosettastone.htm

It sure sounds interesting. Well, when you publish, tell us how we can subscribe for the book. With an autograph, of course, as you promise here, I'll hold you to that promise. I wish you luck too.

I will forget:Both of them are whisperers of Mother,they whisper in Her ear!People that were once one nation now are killing among themselves,such a parody of history at work!




Edited by medenaywe - 29-Jan-2012 at 08:23

INRI=Jesus!From First Her Mother's,connection.Christian religion offers part of Mother's body on Earth!INRI
is a offer!Take Jesus,mother's child,he is the God also,cause He has divine origin&blood,he is continuity of
your old Goddess,her connection on Earth's surface!

It is INRI.Your conclusion seems similar with those that have forged History:No other opinion than official
exists!Pretend as it is only universal truth.According your post above I know now why language had been
lost it's logic:Useless words have to cover logic in sentence&words!Have a nice time Don.


Edited by medenaywe - 27-Jan-2012 at 14:16

Originally posted by Don Quixote Judaism doesn't have a mother figure, that's right. I suspect that the reason for that is the Jewish society was so strictly patriarchal, and they needed very strong discipline in order to survive as a small desert tribe; this combined with strict monotheism didn't allow for mother figure.  We can only try to search for possible reasons why one religion develops one kind of idea, and another doesn't.

Edited by Cryptic - 28-Jan-2012 at 09:45

Originally posted by medenaywe I will forget:Both of them are whisperers of Mother,they whisper in Her ear!

I disagree, the Moslem prayer posture is probably more the position of aman before his king rather than earth centered.  Like wise, the Wailing Wall is a portion of a Temple built to honor a God associated with the sky, not the earth.

Edited by Cryptic - 27-Jan-2012 at 16:25

As it turns out, the Virgin Mary is, like Jesus Christ, a mythical character, founded upon older goddesses. Following on the heels of goddesses such as Aphrodite, Astarte, Cybele, Demeter, Hathor, Inanna, Ishtar and Isis, Mary is "both virgin and mother, and, like many of them, she gives birth to a half-human, half-divine child, who dies and is reborn."
http://www.truthbeknown.com/mary.html