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Topic: World Peace Posted: 09-May-2005 at 20:09 |
I'll get right on that once I develop a way to stop gravity.
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Posted: 27-Apr-2005 at 23:47 |
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Although I think world peace is the most impossible goal any person could possibly have, I will concede its existence if a memeber of AE can get both a Turkish member and an Armenian member to have a rational debate, agree to a compromise view, and become best of friends forever. After you do that, then I will concede world peace. |
I'll get right on that once I develop a way to stop gravity.
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eaglecap
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Posted: 27-Apr-2005 at 09:36 |
In addition to being impossible, world peace is highly undesirable. Extended peace breeds stagnation: and lack of dissent, slavery. I'll stay human, thank you.
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Tobodai
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Posted: 27-Apr-2005 at 03:28 |
Although I think world peace is the most impossible goal any person could possibly have, I will concede its existence if a memeber of AE can get both a Turkish member and an Armenian member to have a rational debate, agree to a compromise view, and become best of friends forever. After you do that, then I will concede world peace.
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Posted: 27-Apr-2005 at 00:16 |
It would be nice but humans will have to evolve spriritually to a higher level otherwise the cycle of hate and war will continue to the end. Because human nature is the same I believe that history repeats itself in cycles, never ending.
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Posted: 26-Apr-2005 at 19:53 |
It will be extremely difficult to achieve, but I don't think world peace is fundamentally impossible. There's no natural law or so that prevents world peace. At some points in history there were more wars than on other points, so why should no war at all be impossible?
I'm sorry, have you met many humans? There most certainly is a natural law against world peace, I like to call it the individual being theory. The concept is simply that humans beings, if unhampered, can and most often will act in their own interests, in total freedom. Thus, they would neccessarily infringe on the interest of others at least some of the time, leading to inevitable conflict. So world peace could not be achieved unless either all human interests could be reconciled, (See Brave New World by Aldous Huxley) or the state could be so powerful as to totally hamper the pursuit of all human interest. Both are impossible. Therefore, so is world peace.
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Posted: 15-Apr-2005 at 21:44 |
It is not possible to have World peace with so many different people in the Wolrd. You would either have to commit a Hitler (which did not hold over well with the rest of the World) or kill everyone as previously stated. It is as simple as that
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Posted: 15-Apr-2005 at 21:19 |
World peace isn't even a just goal. Is it immoral to wage war to prevent injustice, defend your own rights, or defeat tyranny? Like my country fought a war that ended slavery and many other nations have fought for noble causes? Sometimes war is the lesser of two evils. In 1525, would you tell the peasants in the Peasants' War that they should have laid down and accepted their serfdom because violence is not justified.
As a previous poster mentioned, just as war is caused by many absolute beliefs, the idea that peace is more important than all other things is a dogmatic and inflexible belief. Violence in and of itself is not an evil thing; it is the reasons for which it is committed. If I use violence to kill someone robbing my home, is that unjust? Violence means nothing without the context in which it is resorted to.
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Posted: 15-Apr-2005 at 11:47 |
Originally posted by Mixcoatl
It will be extremely difficult to achieve, but I don't think world peace is fundamentally impossible. There's no natural law or so that prevents world peace. At some points in history there were more wars than on other points, so why should no war at all be impossible? |
Let me place it this way. People all over the world, are indoctorinated from birth with absolute beliefs e.g religion, racism, bigotry etc. Sometimes these beliefs suppress rational thought. If it was ingrained from a child's beginnings that violence was incorrect, I think violence in the world would decrease. But you have to keep in mind that the absence of conflict would signal that we had changed our nature as a species. If we were a hive of bees or ants, we might find sth like "universal peace" by subordinating our individualism to the common good. As it is, we are separate organisms who often find that the continual presence of a mate can chafe.
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Posted: 15-Apr-2005 at 10:55 |
hmmm, but imgane the world without people...it would be like a paradise.
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And finally I'd have time to finish all those books, I'd finally have time.....
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Posted: 15-Apr-2005 at 06:33 |
It will be extremely difficult to achieve, but I don't think world
peace is fundamentally impossible. There's no natural law or so that
prevents world peace. At some points in history there were more wars
than on other points, so why should no war at all be impossible?
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Tobodai
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Posted: 15-Apr-2005 at 02:17 |
yes thats it! permanent world peace could be acheived! You just have to kill EVERY SINGLE PERSON TO DO IT!
hmmm, but imgane the world without people...it would be like a paradise.
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Posted: 14-Apr-2005 at 19:59 |
Maybe I'd grab Miss Universe by the rear. Thats what I call "World Piece". Just kiddin!
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Posted: 14-Apr-2005 at 19:57 |
Originally posted by JanusRook
World Peace is very easy to acheive.
Step 1: Get a group of colonists together
Step 2: Build a spaceship and head to a new planet.
Step 3: Crush all instances of dissent amongst colonists instantly.
Step 4: Don't let anyone else in.
Thus World Peace, or did you mean this world?
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Posted: 14-Apr-2005 at 15:03 |
World Peace is very easy to acheive.
Step 1: Get a group of colonists together
Step 2: Build a spaceship and head to a new planet.
Step 3: Crush all instances of dissent amongst colonists instantly.
Step 4: Don't let anyone else in.
Thus World Peace, or did you mean this world?
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Posted: 14-Apr-2005 at 14:22 |
I don't mean to be inappropriate, but right after I saw the topic i thought of Miss World
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Posted: 14-Apr-2005 at 14:16 |
A world governement makes me shutter. I hope the world never come to it. In America we would lose the freedoms that we enjoy.
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Posted: 14-Apr-2005 at 07:08 |
The solution of Tobodai sounds reasonable but i think world peace is impossible. I can compare in a way, war with crime, as in both no matter what you do, it will always happen. You can surely reduce the incidents but you can never eliminate them. The only way maybe, to achieve world peace is if you first kill all the humans.
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Tobodai
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Posted: 14-Apr-2005 at 03:55 |
the only possible way to EVER achieve world peace (and this would not be permanent) is to unify all governments under the rule of a single bloodthirsty despot who butchers millions of people and has everthing firmly under his control, a la Shi Huangdi style. That is the only concievable way I can see the whole world having some peace.
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