The facts about Cyprus issue

Dear Isk the only ignorant kid here is you I think.  By the way how old are you if I may ask? Maybe I can sell my cheap propoganda to you! Hah hahah ha

Well , i am too much older than u and this is the reason u cannot sell propaganda to me...cheap or not.

I am not even going to bother  to explain you what I have already written. Maybe if you read it a few more times you might understand some new things.

Of course u wont bother ...for one thing u think that money can solve everything...And even IF this was the case , ur country falls from one bankrupsy to the next one..And keep in mind always that we are not alike at all.... And please dont try to give me the crap that we all have to breathe air , and that we all have 2 eyes , a stomach , 2 feet and 2 hands...So does the Aleoutians....go sell them ur propaganda..

and how do you figure that I have ever  said we werent also brainwashed?It is what every government does buddy. Unfortunuately for you guys,Greek propoganda is a lot more powerful and shameless in twisting reality compared to ours.

Do u think so ?? Then maybe noone of ur precious Greek friends ever informed u that here we have a democracy and EVERYONE is entitled to his opinion and ANYONE can express , write , and publish completely different ideas...So ...it is rather difficult for us to endure , or even to have propaganda .... Exactly the contrary with ur country , who goes as far as to interfere in Universities and banish all free speech...

Now please read it at least three times before you write

As u can see.... I really dont have to.

All my love to my Greek brothers and sisters, I hope one day we can all be united!

Of course....u can keep on dreaming...its free of charge , even in ur country..

Peace!!

Saying it , and proving it are 2 completely different things..

As for the military expences...As u probably know , we r members of EU and we r bind from some regulations ...So we are NOT free just like that to start a war with anybody. So this brings us into why ur country does NOT reduce its military expences IF she has so good a will ???  Are u afraid of 9.5 million Greeks ??? And while u will think of the answer , question urself why most of the power of the Turkish army , is watcing west ??

The answers will give u a good lesson on how ur country thinks ..

So we are NOT free just like that to start a war with anybody.

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Is that so ?? Now u r coming to the point..U r in need of new markets to improve ur economy , and the Arabs do not provide them ...So u turn to Greeks ...Well Can u give examles of HOW Greece will benefit from the economic growth , while in the begining of ur sentence u just say u r interested in new makets , which means profit ??

ISK,

once more you have proven that you lack the ability to fully comprehend what is written. You are like an immature parrot which seems to have developed some kind of argumentation problem in which you base your arguments from your false allocations which you repeatedly answer yourself with your "blinded by propoganda" vision.Your argumentation lacks credibility and your hate for the Turks disgusts  me! and how did you figure out that Greece has ever poored money into our "black hole economy"?

U can go ahead and be disgusted as much as u want....its not my problem...As for how i did figure that Greece pours money in ur black hole of economy , it is easy....I took a glance at the commerce balance between the two countries...I didnt need so much bla...bla for a so obvious matter.

I dont even think you have ever been to Turkey and yet you act like you know what you are talking about. 

U r entitled to ur opinion. Its for free. But since u do not know me , ur opinion's worth is less than crap.

And for your information; no we are not worried about  10.6 million (by the way get your info straight not 9.5) Greeks invading Turkey. 

U r counting the illegal immigrants too.... But i am speaking about Greeks. Sorry ...ur numbers are still crap too.

It is a historical fact that we are giving you lessons on art of war everytime we meet. 

Yes , u r correct. U gave us a lesson in 1922....and there is another story about this fact in another topic. 10 years before , 1912-1913 we were looking at ur backs all the time...and lets not talk about how a bunch of ill armed paysants kicked ur empire out creating the first Greek state...Of course u showed ur valor against the women and children of Chios , but that was expected from u after all. So , try to find another book to read . The "Art of War" , is not for ur level of military education.

Moreover defensive and offensive strategies related to the Global power play are obviously over your mental capacity to absorb so please, please think few more times before you write something about east and west of Turkey.I think you should relax a little, go out, get a girlfriend or something.  

Still more bla..bla , than actual facts .Try to read , it will improve ur perception and understandability...And as for the global power play , i will ne glad if u open a new topic , showing us ur deep understanding of it , even by being ill informed about the positioning of ur own troops.

Now,

are there no  Greeks who feel that we should stop this animosty and think that we need to discuss how can we improve our relations?

Of course there are. They fall into 2 categories . First is the capitalists  and they are understood because they care only for money , which according to them it has no colour and no country .And the second is some uneducated in history and naive , good willing , people that actually think that u have improved in ur metality.I belong  to none of this categories.

And dont give me crap about getting Turkish troops out of the island as a start. We were already willing to do that when we accpeted the annan plan! 

Look , in here u can be honest ...U were willing for a period of 15 years...not just like that...

As long as there is some guarantee we are more than willing to minimize our troop presence on the island which is a great cost to our economy. I repeat "minimize" (from 30000, overtime to something less than a thousand) since according to the plan there still remains a small number of Greek presence on the island as well.  

Well , our proposal was complete demilitarization of the island ...No troops either Greek or Turkish ...any problem with that ??

Furthermore, the fully withdrawal of Turkish presence is unthinkable given the current international relations. 

Here we come into the point .... unthinkable ?? No good ...Try again..

In a world of conflict with many unresolved issues there is no guarantee what will happen tomorrow. 

For the island ...yes there is a guarantee...The EU..

And as everybody as well as the Greek strategists respect that fact, Turkey cannot afford fully letting go of Cyprus.

Greek strategists , do not accept any of this crap . In here u have just proven what i was saying in this forum from the begining...Turkey's interference was NOT to defend the Turkish Cypriots .... Turkey just expanded...

That would be a suicide! Our start for peace negotiations should never be with this demand of the Greek side. 

Well , again no problem if u dont accept it ....just saty there as u are. Its your decision ...not ours .You decide that this is for ur better interests ...ok you will pay the price of ur choise then. And dont expect us to pay it for you.

Peace!!! 

Prooves .... not empty words..