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Topic: Carthaginian Culture Posted: 19-Sep-2012 at 20:49 |
Carthage retained a distictive blend of Punic and Greek culture. If more one than the pther it was more Phoenecian.
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Posted: 19-Sep-2012 at 20:07 |
Delenda, it could be interpreted as a form of cultural conquest. Ultimately, the conquered nation could become more influential than its colonial master, like Byzantium after the fall of Rome
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Posted: 09-Sep-2012 at 21:04 |
Yet that isn't conquering in itself.
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Posted: 09-Sep-2012 at 20:06 |
Originally posted by Delenda est Roma
Conquerors can be culturally lured and converted as Rome was and Carthage was partially. |
I think that's what Medenaywe meant. The Brits adopted many aspects of Indian culture during the 19th century, as did the Mughals before them
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Posted: 08-Sep-2012 at 22:39 |
Conquerors can be culturally lured and converted as Rome was and Carthage was partially.
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Posted: 04-Sep-2012 at 21:25 |
Neither Rome nor Carthage was conquered end of story unless you provide some new evidence.
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Posted: 04-Sep-2012 at 21:16 |
I beleive so. There are examples of conquered nations "civilising" barbarian invaders, most notably the Romans in Greece
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Posted: 31-Aug-2012 at 19:12 |
Not a simply Persian practice. Is he advocating a subjugated Rome and Carthage?
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Posted: 31-Aug-2012 at 19:10 |
I think Medenaywe's saying that Alexander was successful because he won local consent by adopting the Persian practise of allowing conquered subjects to rule themselves.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2012 at 14:47 |
Please state your opinion I can't understand what your points are.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2012 at 14:43 |
Natives were part of Alexander's world(colony?!?) those days maybe!?!He had no reason to fight with them if they support conflict in 4 century B.C.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2012 at 14:35 |
Lets leave Rome out ok? As for Carthage, ehat are you advocating? Even in its infancy it had 30,000 people. It inherited the Spanish metal trade and took over the Tyrhennian trade. She also absorbed many of the Phoencian colonies, its quite easy to trace her empire.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2012 at 14:23 |
I have data that on place of Rome was settlement of several fishermen houses in that time(350-330BC). Rome was inhabited with refuges from territories occupied by uncontrolled migration groups during those 70-80 years...Carthage needed this territory also.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2012 at 14:17 |
Using current science and ancient histories at its height Carthage had around 150,-300,000 people.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2012 at 14:16 |
Its quite easy to trace Carthage's or Rome's rise to prominence through the ancient historians and archaeological evidence. Carthage gradually took over the Phoenecian trade lanes and Phoenecian colonies. There is archaeological evidence for a Punic presence in the Azores West Africa, Spain, Africa. What evidence do you want? I can probably find it because there is plenty of it.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2012 at 14:13 |
After that they became two world superpowers!Artifacts about population in that time from both places do you have within?Big Bang theory of Ancient times!?!?!
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Posted: 31-Aug-2012 at 13:51 |
Originally posted by medenaywe
Why did Alexander never attack Carthage?Earth had shifted suddenly and Carthage came there afterHis death?Before Alexander nobody attacked Rome&Carthage.Why?No Aliens please even if ancestors of those here on Balkans,Romans=Eastern&Western,insist on it as possible solution.According mental state of their mind:Hmmmm...
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He died before he could even conquer India or Arabia? We have evidence a Carthaginian visited Alexander and found him hostile.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2012 at 13:50 |
Archaeological evidence dates back to the late 700's BC for Carthage and even in its infancy due to archaeology it is estimated to have had 30,000 people.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2012 at 13:35 |
Reason are the same for both of them:there were no bigger habitats on those territories than fishermen towns.Hindu migration groups&others conflict had been exposed in history books.Hindu-European history books have reedited all the rest.Aliens&Predators conflict is missing about last 2300 years in books.But new chapter follows now...(I mean towns:Rome&Cartage in Alexander's time)
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Posted: 31-Aug-2012 at 13:23 |
I guess for the same reason while Egypt never attacked Cartage - the desert between, not enough resourses to justify the war, etc.
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