Originally posted by Miller
Originally posted by İskit
İn Turkey in primary and high school books show Scythians as a Turk.
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Now that explains alot of what we see over the internet.
Turkish gevernment has picked a dangerous path trying to create identity and pride |
Saying them iranian is a very safe and holy path. What a dangerous way we are in.
İ think our schools better than yours one. writing history how politics want it is a job of europan historians not us.
The review of the politically
correct scientific half-truths and outright falsifications would not be
complete without addressing the treatment of the unsuitable facts.
Time to time the life brings to
light a fact that contradicts the official theory. In Russia, the facts can be
disposed of by explaining them away, silencing them, ignoring them, or
destroying them. One example of explaining away is the attribution of a fact to
an import, like the nomadic animal art copied from the advanced
Iranian/Greek/Mediterranean settled population. The silencing is best done by
hiding it, like the Scythian artifacts hidden in the storage of Hermitage, to
hide the splendor and skill of the population preceding the Slavic migrants.
The inscriptions can be ignored, to retain the concept of the illiteracy of the
nomadic population, invariably repeated in every publication. And the
destruction continues on an industrial scale, some by design, some by shear
negligence. Cities and kurgans are being ploughed over, records and bones
destroyed, samples not analyzed, results not published, the hand written
records and collections of the pre-Soviet time archeological societies lost and
destroyed. Whatever are the means, the official theory remains unscathed. The
former USSR and now the Russian Academy of Sciences has a long history of never
acknowledging the evidence that contradicts the official stance. Historically,
it was not an enviable preposition for a Russian scientist: either silence, or
else.
The dissenters, who exist in all
societies and in all times, had to either remain silent, or pay a heavy toll.
Here again existed a circus air, when even the loyal followers could be labeled
dissenters upon a turn in the official position. Like in the Imperial times, in
the Soviet time some dissent always survived in a camouflaged form, masked as
poetry, novels, anti anti-official assertions, and other innocently looking
works. Usually the camouflage was supported by a loyal lip service in the
beginning paragraphs. Not infrequently, both the august referent and the author
worked in tandem disguising the true substance of the work.
The Iranian/Ossetian Scythian
theory has all the traits of a politically correct theory. It is built on a
thinnest foundation of an obscure language, and is not supported by the
evidence and foresight connected with what is usually called a scientific
theory. The cultural heritage, traceable for millennia among other peoples of
the world, has not been shown to display links between the Ossetian, Pashtu, or
other Iranian speaking peoples, and the details of the Scythian life described
by the ancient writers. No traces, specific to the Scythian nomadism of the
historical period, found their parallels in the historically documented
Indo-European societies. It is well shown in the work of a prominent export on
nomadism A. Khazanov(6).
The extensive Indo-European
ethnology documents such cultural attributes as dress, food, drinks,
conservation of produce, family relationships, housing, sanitary traditions,
military traditions, societal organization, cosmological concepts, literary
traditions, mythological and folk tale traditions, art, and a myriad of other
traits. In many cases, the prominence of these traits far exceeds the
significance of the other characteristics. For example, the Scythian
mercenaries were a major, if not the only, force in the armies of a number of
the states, during almost a millennia period. The Scythian warriors in the
Scythian conical hats, Scythian boots, Scythian pants, on the Scythian horses
and with Scythian composite bows are shown innumerable times in the historical
records and became a staple image of the generic Scythian. The Ossetian
ethnography of the historical period would have to come up with at least a
remote echo of these mercenary military traditions wearing Ossetian conical
hats, Ossetian boots, Ossetian pants, riding the Ossetian horses and with
Ossetian composite bows. In the absence of such ethnological links, the
Indo-European theory would remain a murky propaganda myth. The so-called
universal acceptance can become a scientific concept only when the
multidisciplinary evidence converges to the same conclusion.
.İ will give you an answer conversation writed by me.
S: Supporter of İndio Europan theory
M: Me
M: Why yuo indio- europize every people in the ancient world.
S: WE dont do. they speak indio europan language.
M: But your starting hypotesis anatolia or kurgan it starts them Bc. 5000 or 4000. Yuo got any linguistic source?
S: they speak indio europan language
M: At these hypotesis you made horse nomads, farmers, or hunter gatherers you make all of them İndio-euroapan; is it logic.
S: they speak indio europan language
M:
Your hypotesis says Europa, caucasia, north of black sea, anatolia,
middle asia, altai region, syberia all of there populated by
indio-europans from bc. 6000 to end of first age. there are huge
differces at this regions, cultural, religional, economic, at every
part of thier life. How yuo unite them İndio europanic.
S: they speak indio europan language
M: First writings found in the world, sumerian. But it isnt indio europan. How you examine this.
S: İt must be indio europan. More serius reseach will show it.
M: But most of research show its very similar to turkish.
S:
No. No Turks at anatolia, midlle asia , todays east and west
turkestan, syberia no turks here to the huns. Ony iranians here. Ony
iranians. İ-ra-ni-ans. ONLY İRANİANS. NO TURKS. Only hint europans,
iranians.
And Turks barbarian. They cant have civizilation like sümerians have. (This bold sentences said by most of indio-europan historians)
M: Turks and mongolians are horse nomad too. How yuo prison them to todays mongolia only. Why they dont go euroasian steppes?
S:
Onlyyyyyy İraniiiiiiaannnn Noooo Turk or mongol. İranians speak indio
europan. We indio europans at eveywhere. We create civizilation.
M:
At 1000 Bc a viking from norseland, a horse nomad from scytia, a
people from india, how yuo unite them same. Yuo said laguage. When they
came togather they dont understand each others language. Their culture,
religion etc diffrent.
S: They are indio europan. Europans eveywhere.
M you call all white peoples indio-europan. Why?. İts totally ridiciolus and racial.
S: We are aryaaaannnnnn!!! We made civizilation.
M: but your theory isnt eurocentric. Right?
S: yes we hate eurocentrisim. but love indio europans. Turks are barbarian.
Edited by İskit - 09-Oct-2009 at 23:54