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    Posted: 25-Mar-2005 at 11:14

Yeah, building great tombs is one of them. Just look at it. Turks build two great tombs for Ataturk and Turgut zal (Well, I dont think he deserved one...).

And about Nevruz, it is the beginning of the new year in old Turkish 12 animals calender, and it is still celebrated.

 
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Posts: 2187 		  Quote Gubook Janggoon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Mar-2005 at 23:08
Korea's hardly a Turkic nation, but we still retain lots of Shamanistic elements..

My mom's real into reading dreams..

My uncles get mad when I whistle at night. "It calls snakes"

People still consult Mudangs (Shaman Priestess).

SK's religious affiliations are divided between the Christians and the Buddhists, but everyone still believes in some Shamanist stuff.
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Posts: 1174 		  Quote babyblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Mar-2005 at 22:57
Originally posted by Oguzoglu

 

I heard that not cutting your nails at night, not chewing gum at night and also not looking a mirror in darkness are some of these cultural inheritances of thousands of years...

    hmm...who would look at a mirror in the dark?
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Posts: 4310 		  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Mar-2005 at 20:01
AFAIK you can find many elements of Siberian and central Asian shamanism in Native American religions, left overs from teh crossings I guess, even in sedentary Olmec society the shaman retains the power that he had in Siberian tribal structure.
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Why don't you like the word Ergenekon?  I was always taught that myth was for Turks as well as Mongols.  Do a lot of Turks agree with you?  Because you're the first Turk I've ever hear say that.
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I hate the name "Ergenekon" when it's used for the creation myth of the Gk Trks. Ergenekon is the name of the Mongol Creation Myth and the CM of the Gk Trks was surely different from Ergenekon though both myths are still quiet similar to each other.

Anyway; there are still Terist elements in Turkish Islam; such as respecting the dead, constructing large tombs for important people, tying colored things to trees, etc...
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Posts: 521 		  Quote Feramez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 12:13
Yes, actually the old Shaman Turkish New Year.  It just past a couple days ago.  Most people call it Nevruz or close to it, or Ergenekon Bayram.  Most Turkish nations and regions celebrate this day, the only Turks I know of that don't celebrate it are Turks of western Turkey.  It represents the day the Gokturks left the Ergenekon Valley to form the new Turkish empire and also the Shaman New Year.  This year we're in the year of the Bird.  They Shaman calendar is a 12 animal calendar, close to the Chinese calendar.
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Are there any Shamanistic beliefs which are still believed and respected by todays generations of modern Turkic nations? I know that some Turkic nations are still Shamanists, but I mean in the Muslim Turkic communuties, from Uighurs to Turkey Turks...

I heard that not cutting your nails at night, not chewing gum at night and also not looking a mirror in darkness are some of these cultural inheritances of thousands of years...
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