Norse tech and the settlement of the Americas

Originally posted by pinguin That's why it is so difficult to distinguish between Amerindian DNA and Mongolian, and why a recent Brazilian soap opera put a Japanese Brazilian to play an Amazonian Indian

With the new methods it is quite easy to penetrate along to maternal and paternal lines until tens of thousands years back with thousands of "alleles" like:

www.dnatribes.com/

www.23andme.com/

I suppose that dnatribes goes back only 4000 years .

The result can be individual or total nation and the result can be sometimes surprising.

http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/geneticmapofeurope.jpg?w=600&h=392

 Re/pinguin: "....why a recent Brazilian soap opera put a Japanese Brazilian to play an Amazonian Indian." 

That was correct!

They really have Japanese DNA in Amazon.

I must emphasize that I have not read this book of “1421” because it could affect to my objectivity. I have written for many years ago to a Scandinavian forum about Japanese ships penetrating up to the Uruguay or Paraguay River leaving a lot of Japanese DNA. Later I found Japanese DNA among Tupi or/and Guarani – I must try to find the results among my CD-ROMs.

I am sure that Gavin is right:
We have recently been informed of DNA results of the original native peoples of Vancouver Island – the Salish people. The principal report on which I rely is that of Professor Mariana Fernandez Cobo in ‘The American Journal of Physical Anthropology’ 2002. She and her colleague’s analysed urine of the Salish Indians, the Navajo; the Guarani of the Amazon and of mainland Japan. The DNA of all four, the entire sequence CAGTTAGA is absolutely identical. This would be a coincidence of 65,536 to one. The Salish, Navajo and Guarani studied in the report can only be Japanese.

http://www.gavinmenzies.net/pages/evidence-1421/content.asp?EvidenceID=200

Maybe I can understand because my ancestors were living already 35,000 years ago in Yellow and Yangtze River area and my haplogroup is born in North China about 10,000 years ago. Anyway I am neither Chinese nor Asian.

That’s why I have about 10 % Amerindian blood without any Indians in my familytree.

DNA Tribes® Digest November 28, 2008

Results indicate that, consistent with its geographical location adjacent to the Gobi

Desert and Manchuria, the largest genetic contribution to the Altaian region is North Chinese (38.0%). However, substantial genetic contributions from Northern Europe (a total of 30.1%) are observed, along with a substantial American Indian contribution of (15.9%).

These European and American Indian contributions distinguish the Altaian region from other regions of Asia, and suggest that Altaian peoples can be described as Asian only in a general sense, retaining substantial connections to non-Asian regions.

The observed 30.1% Northern European genetic contribution might reflect historical

contacts with Russians, Scythians, and Tocharians. This also likely reflects gene flow from earlier pre-historic peoples of Europe roaming the steppe lands of Asia such as the Kurgan peoples, who left impressive burial monuments in a zone extending from Eastern Europe to the Altai Mountains. Another possible source of gene flow from Northern Europe is contact with Uralian-speaking peoples of northwestern Siberia, as will be discussed below in our analysis of genetic contributions to the Finno-Ugrian genetic region.

http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2008-11-28.pdf

I personally know the case of a Saami countryfellow of mine, who married an Indian woman and settled in the jungle, and he never call the attention of people there. No kidding.

Sorry Jams but the last information debunked my theory and opinion.

http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2008-11-28.pdf

If you are North American for more than a few generations, this is fairly typical - native American genes are much more widespread through North American populations than usually presumed. You probably wouldn't actually know if you did have native American ancestors in your family tree. 

In fact, this is even true for some European populations:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/When-White-British-Prove-to-be-Native-Americans-53946.shtml