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    Posted: 27-Sep-2010 at 03:07
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Kashmir definatly doesn't have anything to do with your south india or eastern india (bengal), maybe it does have similarities to places like Himachal or even northern punjab, but it also shares a lot with places like northern pakistan, afghanistan and Tajikistan.

Its immature saying so.Kashmir may have many things to do with South Indians & bengalis.
India have people of different ethnicities living in it.We dont discriminate based on it.Now you are classifying us and himachalites,punjabies,bengalis and south indians.You seem to have gone blind because of your racial prejudice.

 
what do kashmiries really have to do with bengalis or south indians? i mean maybe the pandits share the same religion, but thats it, the muslims kashmiries have nothing to do with them at all
As I earlier told India has different races in it we have people of different ethnic origins living in India.
I have in my earlier treads posted several photos of Dravidians & bengalis who are genetically similar to europeans & mediteraneans.Kashmiri pandits and others are genetically similar to many other indian caste populations.
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  Quote balochii Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Sep-2010 at 12:12
Originally posted by ranjithvnambiar

Originally posted by balochii

Kashmir definatly doesn't have anything to do with your south india or eastern india (bengal), maybe it does have similarities to places like Himachal or even northern punjab, but it also shares a lot with places like northern pakistan, afghanistan and Tajikistan.

Its immature saying so.Kashmir may have many things to do with South Indians & bengalis.
India have people of different ethnicities living in it.We dont discriminate based on it.Now you are classifying us and himachalites,punjabies,bengalis and south indians.You seem to have gone blind because of your racial prejudice.

 
what do kashmiries really have to do with bengalis or south indians? i mean maybe the pandits share the same religion, but thats it, the muslims kashmiries have nothing to do with them at all
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  Quote ranjithvnambiar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Sep-2010 at 00:01
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^ the article clearly says its shouldn't also be part of pakistan, but pakistan is more closer to kashmir then current India is. Pakistanis are 30% iranic, and also northern parts of punjab are pretty close to kashmiries

Kashmiri pandits who constituted of 40% of the kashmiri population were driven away from Kashmir by Jihadis in 1989 and now they are living as refugees in Delhi and Jammu.We accepted them as Indians and many NGO organisations are helping them without bothering about their ethnicity.
The only problem in Kashmir is politically supported religious terrorism which is supported by international terrorist organisations like alqaeda,LeT etc.
And some country which has proclaimed itself as friends of Kashmir has taken away Kashmiri land and had sold it to China.
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  Quote ranjithvnambiar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Sep-2010 at 23:55
Originally posted by balochii

Kashmir definatly doesn't have anything to do with your south india or eastern india (bengal), maybe it does have similarities to places like Himachal or even northern punjab, but it also shares a lot with places like northern pakistan, afghanistan and Tajikistan.

Its immature saying so.Kashmir may have many things to do with South Indians & bengalis.
India have people of different ethnicities living in it.We dont discriminate based on it.Now you are classifying us and himachalites,punjabies,bengalis and south indians.You seem to have gone blind because of your racial prejudice.

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  Quote balochii Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 14:35
^ the article clearly says its shouldn't also be part of pakistan, but pakistan is more closer to kashmir then current India is. Pakistanis are 30% iranic, and also northern parts of punjab are pretty close to kashmiries
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  Quote ranjithvnambiar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 04:36
Originally posted by balochii

Kashmir definatly doesn't have anything to do with your south india or eastern india (bengal), maybe it does have similarities to places like Himachal or even northern punjab, but it also shares a lot with places like northern pakistan, afghanistan and Tajikistan.

That doesnot make Kashmir part of pakistan
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  Quote balochii Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 02:39
Kashmir definatly doesn't have anything to do with your south india or eastern india (bengal), maybe it does have similarities to places like Himachal or even northern punjab, but it also shares a lot with places like northern pakistan, afghanistan and Tajikistan.
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  Quote ranjithvnambiar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 01:45
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http://thedawn.com.pk/2010/09/17/kashmiri-was-never-part-of-india-and-never-will-be/

Good Propoganda for Kashmir.Lets see what happens.
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  Quote balochii Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Sep-2010 at 19:31
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  Quote balochii Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Sep-2010 at 19:23
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-May-2009 at 23:46
nah,,, The comment I made Persian/Afghan culture thing. I think now that Kashmiris have their own kinda culture.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-May-2009 at 23:45
Kosher: Yes I agree with  you, many people are yapping about the Aryan Crap.  They link practically everyone to Aryans ! Sheesh next thing you know they'll be saying Africans are Aryans or something. (no offense to Africans if you take this offending ) 
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-May-2009 at 23:42
Yes I would agree with this, they are more linked to persian/afghan culture then indian. They are up to the north and they have less influence from India, because of where Kashmir is located. That is why many kashmiri's want Kashmir to be their own country because of how different they are from India. 
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Feb-2009 at 01:46
He is a spammer/banned member so I am sure he won't divulge anything else Approve and his post will be hidden to avoid further confusion.


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  Quote Jallaludin Akbar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Feb-2009 at 01:19
Originally posted by arze

kashmir valley is definatly more central asian,Jammu is more indianized

I don't understand the meaning of more central asian and more indianized. Care to share more info on that? Also it is true that Kashmir as a muslim majority region while Jammu contains a greater majority of hindus. 
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Jul-2008 at 21:20

good for you

 
R1a1 is supposed to be the gene marker though
 
also there is a Mediterannean gene marker amongst north Indians
 
 
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Jul-2008 at 23:59
What is up with this 'original Aryan' crap? why is it that Indians and KP's love to say that and go on and on about it. Most koshur speaking Kashmiris have KP tribe names even today, and those KP tribes have had mixed genetics from long ago. You will find Sapru's with tibetan blood, Siroojis with Persian blood etc etc, its been mixed for a very long time. Due to this huge diversity in gene pool, you get people in the same family ranging from sino looks to caucasian looks.

And as for Aryan DNA, I'm Kashmiri from KP lineage (been in the valley for very very long time), my Ydna is J2a1b, having a 95%+ similarity to cohen blood line (lol), 90% similarity to Greeks according to genebase, which pretty much proves that my Y-ancestor moved to Kashmir (yonks ago). Ancestors were bhuddist and hindu at one time. converted to islam not that long ago.




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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Jul-2008 at 22:03
Ancestors of original  Kashmiris were Hindus, Kashmiri Pundits are closest to the original Aryans DNA wise
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  Quote bilal_ali_2000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Mar-2008 at 08:44
Originally posted by saba

kashmir is the same? have you ever been to kashmir? see the difference between Kashmir Valley and Jammu, its pretty different. Also the areas of Ladakh in Kashmir are more like Tibet. So no all of Kashmir is not same

 
       Yes i know ladakh is Tibetan. And Kashmir is different from Jammu because Jammu is predominently Hindu whereas Kashmir is predominently muslim. Still the history of Kashmir goes very far back in time and the history books of the region list the Aryan kings from Kashmir from about 2000 B.C and the kashmiri historian Kalhana was one of the prime historians of this regon. There are many ancient relics in Kashmir temples and palaces. And there is even a script used there which is so different from the other scripts used in the region that it is undecipehered.
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  Quote bilal_ali_2000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Feb-2008 at 08:43
             Well no most of Kashmir is pretty much the same. And Afghanistan is not to the north of Kashmir but rather to its west.

Edited by bilal_ali_2000 - 24-Feb-2008 at 08:44
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