Africa, Bible the untold truth

I have always felt like the bible told two stories. Such as man has bent the truth to fit his need (Lust for power) for example:

Genesis 1:27

²⁷ So God created man in his own image,
       in the image of God he created him;
       male and female he created them.

 

Genesis 2:18

¹⁸ The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."

 

In the first book of the bible we are taught that man is made first them women come from him, but as you can read for yourself in the bible it says he made both at the same time not one before the other.

 

This plays into men dominating women and treating them as second class people, why would GOD do that

 

*how could GOD create everything and forget to make man a mate when he didn�t forget for everything else on earth

 

Finally this statement helps to explain how our heritage was taken and why the truth can never come out

 

Certainly, all white men, whether professing Christians or not should welcome the success of missionary efforts in Africa. The degrading fetishism and demonology which sum up the native pagan cults cannot stand, and all Negroes will some day be either Christian or Moslems. In so far as he is Christianized, the Negro�s savage instincts will be restrained and he will be disposed to acquiesce in the white tutelage. In so far as he is Islamized, the Negro warlike propensities will be inflamed, and he will be used as the tool of Arab Pan-Islamism seeking to drive the white man from Africa and make the continent his very own.

 

By Professor J. Desmond Clark on the origin and development of man in Africa

 

Originally posted by joeamonroe I have always felt like the bible told two stories. Such as man has bent the truth to fit his need (Lust for power) for example: Genesis 1:27 27 So God created man in his own image,        in the image of God he created him;        male and female he created them.   Genesis 2:18 18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."   In the first book of the bible we are taught that man is made first them women come from him, but as you can read for yourself in the bible it says he made both at the same time not one before the other.   This plays into men dominating women and treating them as second class people, why would GOD do that   *how could GOD create everything and forget to make man a mate when he didn�t forget for everything else on earth   Finally this statement helps to explain how our heritage was taken and why the truth can never come out   Certainly, all white men, whether professing Christians or not should welcome the success of missionary efforts in Africa. The degrading fetishism and demonology which sum up the native pagan cults cannot stand, and all Negroes will some day be either Christian or Moslems. In so far as he is Christianized, the Negro�s savage instincts will be restrained and he will be disposed to acquiesce in the white tutelage. In so far as he is Islamized, the Negro warlike propensities will be inflamed, and he will be used as the tool of Arab Pan-Islamism seeking to drive the white man from Africa and make the continent his very own.   By Professor J. Desmond Clark on the origin and development of man in Africa

I'd agree, joe. Europeans have had some very distressing intellectual positions in regards to Africa and its inhabitants. That being said, so has the Arab world, which had practiced slavery in Africa for about a full millennium before the European slave trade became active. Africa has had a very hard time determining its own future for a very long time, and its history has largely been lost or glossed over in the face of ethno-centric monocultures.
That said, the proponents of Afro-centrist theories tend to be going about reclaiming African history in the wrong way. Stooping to the academic level of 19th century European racist historians is a bit of a step backwards...
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To learn history and teach it to your children is very commendable. That being said, one trap that is very easy to fall into is to listen to unfounded claims and extremist viewpoints and base your knowledge on that. I have talked on this forum with countless nationalists, Euro-centrics, Afro-Centrics, Sino-centrics, you name it, and in the end their arguments are not only established on very shoddy foundations, but they become extremist. In the case of people who read Afro-centric works, and who start debating very controversial notions such as the Egyptians and Jesus being black, I always counsel them instead to focus instead on the wonderful and undisputed achievements of the African civilizations. That includes of course Egypt, but also Nubia, Axum, Ghana, Mali, Songhay, Kanem-Bornu, Monomotapa and many others.
It is time that African Americans rediscover the achievements of their ancestors, instead of focusing on how these achievements were portrayed by white racist scholars, or of trying to appropriate the achievements of others.

the problem I've found is that most of us love money and not each other anymore. I had a conversation with a young lady in which I tried to press apon her to see how her views impact others as well even if they don't believe what you do. Your right many have become so convicted in their views they can't see how they have become extremist as well. My view is that we all love the same GOD but we go about it in different way. I spent over 5 years in various countries due to my military service and the one thing I took from that is a love for others culture and way of life. I think we all have the answer if we take the time to listen with a open heart and mind. Whether Jesus is black or white or anything else the one thing he did do was love everyone no matter what

First ask yourself why African history has been hidden to the world in most schools around the world and Greek history has been made to be the beginning.

The thing is is that Greek history has been seen as part of the succession to the modern era Greek>Roman>French>British>American whereas African history has mainly been relegated to the Ancient Egyptians in our school system, because Africa has not contributed nearly as much to our culture as those other groups (not to say they haven't contributed at all, just not as much as the Greeks for instance).

Finally Africans have contributed so much to all civilization to the point that if you removed us from the face of the earth most knowledge would leave with us

Well I'd say fathering the Human race removing Africans would remove humanity . However I'd disagree with that culturally as East Asia lived effectively outside of the Influence of the Western world. So China would still have lost little if Africans disappeared from history. I do agree though without Africa's contributions to history the world would be less than what it is today, but the same can be said about any culture really.

Originally posted by pinguin The fact is people admires Greece because its merits, not its color of skin.

True, but, there are also many people who will DEvalue the merits of anyone whose skin is not the same colour as the Greeks.

As regards education systems: it is natural to include much on Greek and Roman and Western European history into the education of a member of a Western culture (the US, for example). The Greek>Roman>British>American chain of cultural influences is not imaginary. Though really it should go Mesopotamian>Greek>Roman>British>American. The real problem comes when some people, and I include many educators in this, assume that that's the only chain of influence that matters. Ethnically many Americans have entered this chain from other parts of the world (including Africa), there have been many many cross-pollenizations into this chain from outside it, and perhaps most importantly, ignoring the history of any country other than Greece, Italy, Britain, and the US will lead to a worldview profoundly skewed and even potentially dangerous in a rapidly shrinking world.

Did you know that the English curriculum includes at least one unit on West African history as required material? I don't know if all teachers in England actually teach about it, but they're supposed to. Canada has no such requirement. I don't know if the U.S. does. It ought to.

History is taught insofar as it affects the target audience. With scant regard to anything else. In school I was taught everything about the Greeks and Romans distant civilsations, since they have a direct bearing on my country, the Greeks ruled here for many centuries, there capital is now our capital, Roman law influenced the laws of my country, be they via the British Law or via Islamic law. While we hear scant little about say Chinese history, despite the fact we share a land border with them. Reason Chinese interaction was not as importanat. Perhaps one hundred years from now it will be different.

The miseducation of the NEGRO by Carter G Woodson good book to read if you haven't.

Originally posted by joeamonroe the one thing you fail to say is that the greeks where educated in African "EGYPT" for some reason everyone seems to forget to add this part. Also African predates Greece

So your telling me that in your country they give Africans their just credit for what they have given to the world that the greeks claim they came up with or is it just a phrase saying they took classes in African lets move on next subject