The best medieval unit

Originally posted by SovietJesus Fine, then please be kind enough to describe to me the supposedly vast difference between Mongol and Turkish arrows--both had iron heads, so what's your case? No, you read bows as arrows, that was the problem. Or the other way around, can't remember at this point.

No, it was simply claimed that Turkish arrows couldn't penetrate armor--no mention was made of the supposed problem lying specifically with either the capability and/or design of the bow, or the arrow.

The primary reason why the English won the battle of Agincourt was because the French were mostly knights in heavy armor going through unforgiving mud making them easy targets for any bow whether a Longbow or the Mongol's composite bow

   First of all, similar units should be compared:  Cavalry and bowmen are two distinct aspects of warfare.....so

  Before 1526  (battle of pavia)

 Best  Heavy infantry: Macedonian's,  flamand's( belgium) or swiss's phalanx

 Best light infantry: English (welsh) longbowmen

 Best heavy cavalry: French Full plated knights

 Best Light cavalry: parthians or mongols mounted archers

 Best overall units: Tibetans heavy cavalry and Carolingians  "milites" ( both were heavy armored cavalry, armed whith bow and spear and could dismount as well)

After 1526 and before Napoleon

 Best heavy cavalry: no more useless against firearms

 Best light cavalry: not very useful but cossacks

 Best heavy infantry: no more

 Best light infantry: French gunners

From napoleon to "waterloo"

 Best cavalry: french hussards

 Best infantry: french "grognards"

 Sorry it's not french pride, it's just an historical fact

From waterloo to WWII

 Best cavalry: hard to say, can't make up my mind; perhaps US confederate cavalry

 Best infantry: Prussian gunners 

Since WWII:

 Best cavalry ( armored vehicles): US abrahams tank

 Best infantry: German third Reich's SS and French Legions

I don't have enough knowledge to speculate on navy and aviation

Edited by Demetrios

 The history section of the game could be correct, whenever it is or not, you must check historical documents to be sure

 Huskarls were totaly wiped out by Guillaume(William) le conqu�rant at the battle of "Hasting" in 1066

oh yea and also they were experts in using a spear

i mean is there anything they cant do?

If u ask me, if you put one of each of the units from the poll on one battle field the samurai would be the last man standing.

Edited by Zero_X

yes but on the poll its mongol archers

Mongol horse archers are more skilled than most people think.
No other unit can be as independent as a Mongol warrior. He has 4-5 horses, 3 quivers of arrows (which he replenishes after a battle if possible), a compound doubly curved bow with a good range of 300 metres, a small buckler, sword, dagger, a mace or an axe, a lance with a hook and reverse spike and his armor protection vary with his success in the battlefield.

Genghis Khan had a personal tumen of 10000. Of these I think there are 1000 quiver bearers. These quiver bearers have to be able to pull a 7 Shi bow (I don't know how strong the bow is exactly, but it has to be amazingly hard), can switch horses at the gallop, pick up weapons on the ground at full gallop, ride underneath the horse (with only 1 feet in the stirrup) etc.

"Mongol horse archers are more skilled than most people think.
No other unit can be as independent as a Mongol warrior. He has 4-5 horses, 3 quivers of arrows (which he replenishes after a battle if possible), a compound doubly curved bow with a good range of 300 metres, a small buckler, sword, dagger, a mace or an axe, a lance with a hook and reverse spike and his armor protection vary with his success in the battlefield.

Genghis Khan had a personal tumen of 10000. Of these I think there are 1000 quiver bearers. These quiver bearers have to be able to pull a 7 Shi bow (I don't know how strong the bow is exactly, but it has to be amazingly hard), can switch horses at the gallop, pick up weapons on the ground at full gallop, ride underneath the horse (with only 1 feet in the stirrup) etc."

 

They are no more skilled or different than other steppe army of upper asia