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The best medieval unit
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Poll Question: The Best unit
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    Posted: 19-Aug-2004 at 06:30
Now which is the best
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mmmh, what are Teutonic archers and Golden Mamelukes?
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sorry, TEUTONIC KNIGHTS

and Golden Mamelukes, the nobles of Egypt and Syria, with lances and they wore golden armour, you may take them as Mamelukes.
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you mean the Khassaki?
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SInce Mongols thrased every army they met during this time period, and since the Keshiks are the imperial guard. I cast my vote.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Aug-2004 at 11:22

Well,  for me it is a hard decision of Byzantine Cataphract or Tuetonic knight,  I am going to vote Cataphract though because Tuetonic Knights' as far as I can imagine wore so much armor that if they were knocked down they would probably be out of the fight

So Cataphract then
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now, did the byzantines call them cataphtactorii(armoured horsemen)???
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Originally posted by Huitzilopochtli

because Tuetonic Knights' as far as I can imagine wore so much armor that if they were knocked down they would probably be out of the fight

I have a feeling that this is a myth
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I said mongol archers speculating that the author meant mongolic cavarly archer
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Some of the units didn't coexist at the same time as others did! The Byzantine Katapractoi was the best equipted heavy cavalry of its time, but didn't last into the time of other units, like the Longbowman or even later knights. 
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yes, cavalry archers, and from the Kataphractii, then didnt they exist in 12th century...
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Posts: 4310 		  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Aug-2004 at 14:27
MOngol archer cavalry was by far the most superior, I like the Keshiks more for cool armor but in terms of effectiveness range and mobility reign supreme over armor and brute force.
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I would like to correct the myth of the mongol supierority in army, no record whatsoever mentioned that their archery, organization,, discipline or armament than any other previous nomads that dominated mongolia, there is no reason just because they were more successful to suppose that their army is of supieror quality than others, there are many occasion when mongol armies were beaten by inferior odds too and vise versa, it all depend on the commander and thats one of the rason the mongol army was successful. 
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Also what is the time frame covered for this "Medeval", if its up to 1500, then I would say Ottoman since their firearm troops by that time was the most developed and trained.

If its before firearms, then its virtually impossible to decide since many of the armies were equippted with the same thing and both won and lost battles throughout.
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I had to choose between Mongol Archers and English Longbowmen.  I chose the Mongols because in the end they were more successful that the Longbowmen who although devastating to the French, weren't able to totally defeat them.
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I think the mongols have got their vote split between the keshik's and the "mongol archers" since technically the keshiks were also mongol archers and were the imperial guard
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Polish Hussars.
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The English Longbowmen. They were the defining weapon of the Hundred Years' War and gave  England it's military reputation during the Middle Ages.
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Originally posted by boody4

Polish Hussars.

 

i like it...
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Originally posted by boody4

Polish Hussars.

They were not medieval.
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