Gaya and Koguryo (goguri)

Hey Gubukjanggoon,

    Communism is also problematic in its ideal.  Its prediction about capitalism is only partly right (although right enough to alarm us.)  It's actual form has never existed, so I'm not sure how you can hate it: there has never been a Communist state.  According to Marx, Communism is achieved after the Socialist Proletariat Dictatorship dissolves when all classes disappear along with private properties.  Soviet Union, China, etc, were all Socialist Proletariat Dictatorship, not Communist state (there is no such thing as "Communist state" since Communist society is stateless.)

    "The Big point for Koreans on this issue, which is often misunderstood, is not to claim Southern Manchuria and is not to do some other crazy nationalist thing...   Koreans feel that they have very little, owing to the states weakness in the late years of Josun, and they feel like they have to fight for every little scrap they have left.  ITs like a cornered rat...except in that case the cornered rat has become pretty strong..."

    Depends how you define "crazy nationalist."  I agree that the Koreans feel that they have very little to claim.  But this is very unhealthy, just as unhealthy as Chinese deluding themselves to think that they have very much to claim.  Like I said in another post, nationalism is an illusion: a destructive Western invention that at least incites soccer fans to riot, and at worst lead the popularity of such figures as Bush and his war.  All human history is yours and mine: is it really important to claim it?  The Koreans and Chinese are, unfortunately, playing into this mind game of the Westerners (which was also taken up by the Japanese.)  Have you realized that the most "successful" countries that beat the crap out of others (economically and militarily) nowadays are the ones with relatively short histories (like the US)?  All these Chinese and Korean nationalist "myths" are no better than Nazi Aryan myths, and hopefully they don't evolve into the same atrocity as the latter.

Peace,

Michael

8-21-2004

I think Gaya=Japanese with one catch!  Since Japs came from Gaya, Japanese=Korean and therefore Japan should be Korean! j/k.  But I think their points are somewhat valid, because Chinese record mentions japan to have started in southern Korea and the lot moved to the island once Koguryo started to expand, as well as the Japanese creation myth which matches with Gaya creation myth.  And that stela thing they claim is false because they forged it.(wish I had the old AE post to prove this...)

Koguryo-I'll think more about this issue and come up with a better idea.