Expansionist States of Today

I was wondering, almost all of the world's powers today aren't concerned with territorial acquisitions at all. It seems the age of conquest is over. However, there are still expansionist states in the world today. I think Morroco is one, having annexed Western Sahara, Armenia is another, having taken territory from Azerbaijan in 1994, and from what i've read aparently they wish to take territory from Turkey, Georgia, Azerbaijan and Syria as well, although the party in control right now has denounced expansionist intentions.

Originally posted by kurt Armenia is another, having taken territory from Azerbaijan in 1994,

     Its been said many times on this forum that the Karabagh war was between the Azeri state and Karabagh Armenians, not against the Armenian army. Karabagh was an autonomous region within the Azerbaijan SSR, and it declared its independence from the Soviet Union through a democratic vote and it never formed part of the Republic of Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan invaded the region and got beat by a numerically and technologically inferior force. But we shouldn't get into this since theres already a thread about this somewhere in the modern history section (but its important to correct the false premise of your post).

Originally posted by kurt and from what i've read aparently they wish to take territory from Turkey, Georgia, Azerbaijan and Syria as well, although the party in control right now has denounced expansionist intentions

     So if the party in power has denounced expansionist intentions, on what basis do you brand them as expansionist?

     Armenia wants to annex lands from Syria? How did you manage to include Syria? They have nothing to do with anything.


     Kurt, I must ask, where did you get this information?

China and Vatican.

India has designs on all its neighbours, Pakistan feels Afghanistan and Central Asia is its backyard, Iran may soon feel the same about The Mid East, while Israel it seems will not rest until it has annexed all the territory from the Nile to the Euphrates.

Originally posted by Zagros Turkey? If it has designs on Northern Iraq?

     That might happen soon enough, but don't forget northern Cyprus.

That might happen soon enough, but don't forget northern Cyprus. Standart armenian approach?

China in Tibet

with india, like the PRC in non Han area's, there is territory that probably doesn't really fit in to the broader "Indian" nation.  generally Sikkim and most While Ladakh is culturally a part of Tibet.

I'll throw in Ethiopia in this mix, it occupation of parts of Somalia is just an extension of its occupation of the Ogaden.

Sudan on Chad and CAR.

Georgia in Sth Ossetia

Nth ossetia in ingush



Edited by Leonidas - 24-Jun-2007 at 00:08

 What does me being Armenian have to do with anything... Are you saying the Turkish military doesn't have tens of thousands of troops stationed in Cyprus?

Originally posted by ArmenianSurvival      Its been said many times on this forum that the Karabagh war was between the Azeri state and Karabagh Armenians, not against the Armenian army. Karabagh was an autonomous region within the Azerbaijan SSR, and it declared its independence from the Soviet Union through a democratic vote and it never formed part of the Republic of Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan invaded the region and got beat by a numerically and technologically inferior force.

The secetionists in Karabakh can ask for whatever they like, but the fact of the matter is that the Soviets never recognized Karabakh as an independent state, and that is why the international community continues to consider it  an integral part of the sovereign Azeri state which Armenian forces continues to occupy illegally despite numerous UN resolutions. The Armenian regime back then actively aided the secetionist insurgents in Karabakh and participated in the ethnic cleansing of the region from its indigenous Azeri population.



Edited by bgturk - 24-Jun-2007 at 08:38