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Topic: Alocholism over E. Europe is caused by... Mongol?? Posted: 26-Jul-2007 at 05:20 |
I always assumed Eastern Europeaners liked the booze because of the cold? The Soviet central heating system and all that?
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Posted: 27-Jul-2007 at 00:38 |
It's a funny thread
Originally posted by Reginmund
the Poles are the ones who can't hold their drink, not the Russians. |
Reginmund, I have to correct you. The Poles like to vaunt how good we are in drinking. And the Poles like to compare themselfs to Russians in drinking, but the true is that we are little boys compare to Russians or even to Chineses. An average Pole drinks only about 11 dm3 alcohol per year, while an average Russian or Chinese (yes, Chineses are only a little worse than Russians) drinks about 25 dm3 alcohol per year.
BTW, thanks to Chineses, Polish vodka has a good perspective in the future. Thanks to export of Polish vodka to China, its production is increasing a few hundred per cent per year!
Edited by ataman - 27-Jul-2007 at 00:46
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Posted: 28-Jul-2007 at 18:43 |
Originally posted by pekau
My biology teacher told me about a theory that when Mongolian hordes invaded Eastern Europe, the Mongolian genes mixed with the them (Primary due to rape or intermarriage) and brought Asian genes that caused Eastern European people to have weak resistance against alcoholic drinks. This may be the reason why there are so many Eastern Euopean people who have issues with alcoholic problems...
When I first heard of this, I thought it was odd... yet possible scenario. What do you think? And of course, it's just a theory. |
What a loads of bullsh*t. Your history teacher is dumb and I would advice You to change school. Mongols had almost none impact on Poland. One bigger invasions in 1241. Maybe few people were born after their invasion so what it has to do with the whole nation.
The other thing is that Eastern European are well known to have strong resistance against alcoholic drinks. Western Europeans get drunk when we are just starting .
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Posted: 28-Jul-2007 at 18:52 |
I have to say that trying to prove that Eastern Europeans are drinking a lot because of Mongols is one of the most stupid theories I have ever heard. I wonder what will be next? That Hitler was Marsian. I'm sure some of You will have profs and quotes on that too.
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Posted: 28-Jul-2007 at 19:49 |
Nope, Eastern Europeans drink lots alcohol because it is cheap and its cold out there during the winter, what can you else do. Also many peasants know how to make alcohol at home, though it is illegal to sell it to the others I guess (well at least in Latvia).
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Posted: 29-Jul-2007 at 00:54 |
In fact, for thousands years, drinking alcohol was a save method of completing lotions and calories. Water was often contaminated by bacteriums, so drinking water was very dangerous. For thousands years a beer was a 'liquid bread' and it was a substitute of water for most of European civilisations.
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Posted: 06-Aug-2007 at 14:55 |
Tell your biology teacher to have his head re-exmained.!!!
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Posted: 12-Aug-2007 at 23:05 |
Just for some people's interests... some of us wrote the petition to the school administration for her incompetence. Naturally, she will just try to retire early to get the pension... but it matters little. She's no longer my teacher.
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Posted: 12-Aug-2007 at 23:24 |
Your ex-teacher will be receiving a petition from the Mongolian Alcoholics Anonymous!
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Posted: 09-Aug-2012 at 23:03 |
If you see Mongolian nomads daily life in steppe, there no time to drinking until fall in every week or everyday. Nomadic life is too busy from born to die. So russian alcoholism is their own problem also I don't think there is not much genetic influence from Mongols to Slavs. Russians are part Fin and part Slavs. Have to find their problem from Fins.
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Posted: 10-Aug-2012 at 00:42 |
I think that if you feel an overwhelming desire to drink alcohol, and do not want to stop drinking a lot of alcohol, blaming others might come easy. If you believe that alcoholism is in your blood, do you strongly believe that it means you should drink huge amounts of alcohol? No obviously not.
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Posted: 11-Aug-2012 at 08:40 |
If there's alcohol problems in your family, then don't you feel the need to drink yourself into oblivion.
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Posted: 11-Aug-2012 at 10:47 |
I think long, cold winters contribute to alcoholism more than Mongolian genes
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Posted: 11-Aug-2012 at 11:11 |
Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising
If there's alcohol problems in your family, then don't you feel the need to drink yourself into oblivion. |
There hasn't been anything solid discovered indicating genetic predisposition of alcohol addiction. Children of alcoholics are more likely to develope dependencies as they have been exposed to the same conditions that caused the parent or parents to become alcoholics.
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Posted: 11-Aug-2012 at 11:20 |
Originally posted by Snafu
I think long, cold winters contribute to alcoholism more than Mongolian genes |
You are probably closer to the truth than you think. Seasonal Affect Disorder, "SAD", effects millions worldwide. Many don't even realize how badly they are effected by it. It's subtle and if you have a group, ex. classroom, it will be even less noticeable.
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Posted: 11-Aug-2012 at 12:52 |
Originally posted by red clay
Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising
If there's alcohol problems in your family, then don't you feel the need to drink yourself into oblivion. |
There hasn't been anything solid discovered indicating genetic predisposition of alcohol addiction. Children of alcoholics are more likely to develope dependencies as they have been exposed to the same conditions that caused the parent or parents to become alcoholics. |
My father was an alcoholic, but thankfully had got himself off of the stuff, although unfortunately not over the Christmas and New year period in my earlier years. I still find that time of the year to be difficult, even now, even though he is no longer alive. The funny thing is he was a wonderful man the rest of the time. Myself I'm not really a drinker. The only thing I've ever heard of people being prone to alcoholism was something I once found saying most alcoholics tested seemed to have a sweet tooth.
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Posted: 11-Aug-2012 at 19:32 |
The Poles have both a love of alcohol and a large Tatar population. Perhaps that's why other Slavs make fun of them in the same way the English mock the Irish?
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Posted: 11-Aug-2012 at 19:43 |
Originally posted by Nick1986
The Poles have both a love of alcohol and a large Tatar population. Perhaps that's why other Slavs make fun of them in the same way the English mock the Irish?
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It's probably better you ask those Slavs on this forum, Nick.
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Posted: 12-Aug-2012 at 19:12 |
Maybe fellow-Pole Mosquito will see this topic and provide a few answers?
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Posted: 12-Aug-2012 at 19:40 |
Mock the Irish? We take it as a compliment!
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