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Topic: Alexander the Great in S.Asia? Posted: 27-Apr-2007 at 05:02 |
I heard that a city or village in India or Pakistan was founded by the last descendents of the Macedonian army. Where was it? I wanted to write about it on my blog.
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Posted: 27-Apr-2007 at 07:03 |
He founded quite a few in Pakistan, though the main one he founded was in Afghanistan, Kandahar. Some think Jhelum in Pakistan was founded by him (named after his horse actually, Buchephelus). Others might be Bela, Uch, but those I'm not sure of.
And do get it right on your blog. Pakistan isn't India, Jhelum, Nicaea, Bucephela aren't Indian cities! Thanks.
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Posted: 27-Apr-2007 at 23:01 |
Alexander never stepped a foot in India. You will see some Indian books being very unspecific about this, and simply say "Punjab", but they are talking about the Pakistani Punjab.
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Posted: 28-Apr-2007 at 23:03 |
India ,Pakistan and Bangladesh are creation of partition...earlier they we all related (later religion devided them). Hell lot of migration and settlement has happened in South Asia and diverse south asia has been created. Pakistan is diverse and so is India, but it doesn't mean they are different. Pakistan was same as India with little diversification.
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Posted: 28-Apr-2007 at 23:04 |
Alexander had communication with Chanakya and Chandra Gupta Maurya ...when both were palnning to topple migty Nanda empire of Magadha.
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Posted: 28-Apr-2007 at 23:49 |
Originally posted by innocent
India ,Pakistan and Bangladesh are creation of partition...earlier they we all related (later religion devided them). Hell lot of migration and settlement has happened in South Asia and diverse south asia has been created. Pakistan is diverse and so is India, but it doesn't mean they are different. Pakistan was same as India with little diversification.
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Oh really. Pakistan was joined with India (Bharat) through colonial force, not through the will of the people. Prior to the British, there were a whole lot of empires that drew a border where the Indo-Pak border is right now. Some might have extended into parts of North India, but generally these were also extended into Afghanistan or as far away as Greece. Why is it then that you conclude Pakistan has a shared history with India, but not Afghanistan (or even Greece)? The simple fact is Pakistan has a different history to India, a different one to Afghanistan, a different one to Greece. I don't see how you can dispute this. Archemids, Timur's, Alexanders, IV Civilizations all did not extend into India (or any signifiacant amount). The Mughals extended into North India, but also extended into Afghanistan, Turkmenistan etc.
The only people that unified all three countries was the British, but even then Pakistan was not under its complete control (perhaps the Mauryans also though it wasnt for very long again, and Mauryan culture only took off in Pakistan rather than in India anyway). British history in the subcontinent is only for 200 years or so, so it's hardly a shared history with North India. The real clincher are the DNA tests, pretty clear that Pakistanis on average have different ancestries to Indians.
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Posted: 29-Apr-2007 at 01:12 |
Guys lets not get into this debate again.
And that map you have their Telde is really inaccurate.
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Posted: 29-Apr-2007 at 06:40 |
alright, well I just took it for illustrative purposes because it showed most obviously what I was trying to say. But even that one extended into Afghanistan, perhaps not Turkmenistan. Kushan Empire is a better example. It's more in Central Asia than in India.
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 11:18 |
Give the evidences for the existence of sources on Alexander
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 11:57 |
The kalash you mean guys? They were asked by a greek macedon what they are and the girl said "makedon se" the modern greek being "makedon ise" same accent language and all, i cried .Some few have visited greece, they are still pagan it was very interesting.
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 12:04 |
The language is greek with persian and sansckrit elements.Since 1995 they have their own school funded by the greek state.There are others spread in the east i cant remember the rest though.
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 12:33 |
Use altavist ato translate from greek to english the foloowing http://www.poa.gr/periodiko/no13/kalas.htm http://www.hri.org/MPA/kalas/kalas.html http://www.thealphabetbook.com/Kalash/ http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_politics_3161729_08/04/2005_54956
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 12:35 |
There are many sites but they are all in Greek.
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 16:58 |
Originally posted by hkdollarboy
I heard that a city or village in India or Pakistan was founded by the last descendents of the Macedonian army. Where was it? I wanted to write about it on my blog. |
You mean the Kalash.The legend has it the Kalash were descended from deserters who stayed behind after Greek Emperor Alexander the Greats army passed through the area more than 2,000 years ago, and for centuries they lived in splendid isolation.
Wiki has an intresting article but also click and the given links like the below
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 22:11 |
Kalasha aren't Greek/Macedonian.
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Posted: 13-May-2007 at 06:14 |
In Alexander web, there has been an article to that effect that "Alexander never existed", but I am not able to access it.
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Posted: 13-May-2007 at 09:51 |
you`re probably not missing out on much. There are few historical people with so much evidence to prove they existed, as Alexander. After all, how else do we explain all the cities named after him and the spread of hellenistic culture across large parts of Asia...
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Posted: 22-May-2007 at 03:45 |
What is the meaning of "Alexander"?
Different attempts convey various connotations:
Nearly 70 variance are proposed as follows:
Al, Alasdair, Alastair, Alaster, Alaxander, Alcander, Alcinder, Alcindor, Alec, Aleco, Alejandro, Alejo, Alek, Aleko, Aleksandar, Aleksander, Aleksandr, Aleksanteri, Alesandro, Alessandre, Alessandri, Alessandro, Alex, Alexan, Alexandre, Alexandro, Alexandros, Alexei, Alexi, Alexio, Alexis, Alic, Alicio, Alick, Alik, Alisander, Alissander, Alissandre, Alistair, Alister, Alistir, Alix, Alixandre, Allie, Allistair, Allister, Allistir, Alsandare, Alyksandr, Iskander, Iskender, Lex, Lexo, Sacha, Sander, Sandero, Sandor, Sandro, Sandros, Sandie, Sandy, Sascha, Sasha, Saunder, Saunders, Sikander, Xander, Zander, Zandro and Zandros.
How, they, then are narrowed down to "Alexander"?
When the name "Alexander" as such was used for the first time?
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Posted: 22-May-2007 at 04:33 |
Well the name itself is Greek in origin and mentioned for the first time by Homer.
original is ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ (choose greek fonts to see). meaning is "protector of men" (alex-andros). The name was one of the titles ("epithets") given to the Greek goddess Herra and as such is usually taken to mean "one who comes to the aid of warriors."
Alexander is the Latilized form of the name Aalexandros
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Posted: 23-May-2007 at 13:32 |
one question didnt alexcanders army get mullerd by the Khatris?
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