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    Posted: 12-Apr-2007 at 23:29
This video will show you the Darra region of the NWFP where today we find the largest illegal arms market on the planet.  May I be so bold as to say...the prices are quite accomodating Wink
 
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I loved that movie. I remember a couple of years ago the Americans tried a gun buy back scheme in Afghanistan. They were buying homemade guns that didn't work any more for higher prices than you could get them new.
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Wow! I have heard about this market before.  Amazing.
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Originally posted by Omar al Hashim



I loved that movie. I remember a couple of years ago the Americans tried a gun buy back scheme in Afghanistan. They were buying homemade guns that didn't work any more for higher prices than you could get them new.
 
i think those were flash drives that from their way onto the markets from US army bases in Afghanistan.
 
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Apr-2007 at 04:17
Well Darra is not illegal.
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Originally posted by Sparten

Well Darra is not illegal.
 
Hey Sparten check this out the Darra market along with Bara and Jamrud are not registered with the government of Pakistan. 
 
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^ Not registered isn't the same as illegal of course. It's a good point by Sparten. 
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Originally posted by TeldeInduz

^ Not registered isn't the same as illegal of course. It's a good point by Sparten. 
 
TeldeInduz is not it true that the International and Pakistani Governments consider the factories in Darra Adum Khel as to being 'illegal underground production'?  What are some requirements for such an institution in Pakistan as being illegal? 
 
South Asia and Small Arms: Synthesis report on National Consultation and Regional Strategy Meeting, Ottawa: SAP Canada, 2002, pp. 23-25.
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Originally posted by Rajputana

 
TeldeInduz is not it true that the International and Pakistani Governments consider the factories in Darra Adum Khel as to being 'illegal underground production'?  What are some requirements for such an institution in Pakistan as being illegal? 
 
South Asia and Small Arms: Synthesis report on National Consultation and Regional Strategy Meeting, Ottawa: SAP Canada, 2002, pp. 23-25.
 
It's not illegal because Darra has its own laws seperate from the rest of Pakistan, including a lot of the Frontier Province. 
 
 
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I bet the International Governments consider it illegal, but I don't see why the Pakistan government would. Pakistan can neither create nor enforce laws in the tribal regions.

Originally posted by Telde

i think those were flash drives that from their way onto the markets from US army bases in Afghanistan.

That happened too.


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Originally posted by Omar al Hashim

I bet the International Governments consider it illegal, but I don't see why the Pakistan government would. Pakistan can neither create nor enforce laws in the tribal regions.


Is this because the Pakistani government can't, like in Sri Lanka with the Tigers, or because they choose not to for economic or political reasons (such as we'll leave you alone if you don't cause trouble)?
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Both. I think Pakistan is too smart to try.
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Originally posted by TeldeInduz

It's not illegal because Darra has its own laws seperate from the rest of Pakistan, including a lot of the Frontier Province.
 
So do they have to register with FATA? Is the FATA (Federally Administered Tribal Areas) the governing body of the NWFP?  Is this their Flag?
 
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Originally posted by Rajputana

Originally posted by TeldeInduz

It's not illegal because Darra has its own laws seperate from the rest of Pakistan, including a lot of the Frontier Province.
 
So do they have to register with FATA? Is the FATA (Federally Administered Tribal Areas) the governing body of the NWFP?  Is this their Flag?
 
 
lol, no that's not the flag of FATA. The don't need to register in FATA, why would they? lol, no FATA isn't the governing body of the NWFP. 
 
 
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Apr-2007 at 07:29
Immense stupidity in just one thread.
 
1) FATA (Ferdrally Administered Tribal Areas) is the modern incarnation of what the British called Frontier Regions. FATA are the last remaining districts which are still Frontier Region, at one time most of Pakistan was a FRontier REgion.
 
2) Its not strictly true that Pakistani law dose not apply in FATA, lots of laws do. Under the constitution a law applies to FATA if it is specifically extended to FATA not otherwise. Lots of laws do, banking laws for instance, as well as laws about commrcial dealings and standards, or industry standards.
 
3) FATA's criminal law is goverened by something called the Frontier Crimes Regulation (FCR). This is different from the rest of Pakistan.
 
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Aside from the fact that they might be supplying the Taliban..

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Oh yeah awesome video,

 i agree that this isn't illegal or at least its one of those grey areas, but in that part of the world no one's going in to stop it anyway.
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Originally posted by think

Aside from the fact that they might be supplying the Taliban..
 
Well that is definitely true and a major concern for the international governements.  It also raises many questions such as :
 
1) Why dont the United States intervene in this matter?
 
2) Why dont Pakistan sort out the problems in their own backyard - are they playing a two faced game?  Lamp  At 1,000 guns per day in just the market of Darra Adum Khel this should be #1 priority for the War Against Terror.
 
 
Originally posted by Sparten

Immense stupidity in just one thread
 
Can you clarify please Sparten as to whom your immensely colourful quote was aimed at? 

PS.  Link to The Real 'Heroes of Chawinda'  LOL
 
 
 
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Cause the US is not stupid to try its hajnd in the most inhospitable terrain in the world.

 
 
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Originally posted by Sparten

Cause the US is not stupid to try its hajnd in the most inhospitable terrain in the world. 
 
I think the US has more than efficient range in the FATA area with its weapons technology and 'softening' the area up before the army goes in.  Sadly though the innocent people along with the Taliban supporters have to pay the price as well.
 
 
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