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Topic: Shah Abbasi System of 999 caravanserais in Persia Posted: 12-Apr-2007 at 08:08 |
Shah Abbas the Great built a system of 999 caravanserais in Persia, Each caravanserai is approximiately 30-50 km from the next.



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Posted: 12-Apr-2007 at 08:21 |
Very nice!
What exactly are they for: Are they marketplaces, or just stops to rest and spend the night? And how many still remain, do you know?
They look intruiging...
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Posted: 12-Apr-2007 at 17:30 |
Originally posted by Aelfgifu
Very nice!
What exactly are they for: Are they marketplaces, or just stops to rest and spend the night? And how many still remain, do you know?
They look intruiging... |
its like modern hotel but its only for traders IIRC.
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Posted: 12-Apr-2007 at 17:46 |
They are stop overs for refuelling (in the organic sense).
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Posted: 14-Apr-2007 at 09:42 |
There are still several caravanserais in Iran but unfortunately most of them have been abandoned and are being destroyed!
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Posted: 14-Apr-2007 at 11:29 |
What do you mean "are being destroyed"? You mean willingly by promotors or people in need of stones?
T's shame though it really is lovely. But I sure that these regions ought to be full of the ghosts who long before us were using these routes and I'm sure they won't let this happen.
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Posted: 14-Apr-2007 at 12:45 |
There can be many reasons for destroying a caravanserai, such as building roads, railway, factories, ... and of course natural causes.
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Posted: 25-Nov-2008 at 05:40 |
Nice topic. Is there any kind of place like caravanserai in other countries? (except Turkey)
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Posted: 25-Nov-2008 at 08:29 |
Yeah All over Central Asia along the Silk Road
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Posted: 25-Nov-2008 at 17:58 |
The Seljuks built caravansarays everywhere they ruled.
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Posted: 26-Nov-2008 at 08:32 |
Why 999? Did construction happen to stop at that number by chance or did they decide on it beforehand because it would sound cool?
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Posted: 24-Feb-2009 at 14:22 |
Caravanserai were known as Khans (or Qans, not the Turkic type of Q, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_palatal_plosive) in Albania and were used up to the point of communist control. In which then they were alll demolished as part of the greater goal of the eradication of the Ottoman memory. The term still survives in the language however, we call a store dyqan.
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Posted: 24-Feb-2009 at 14:40 |
Originally posted by Suren
Nice topic. Is there any kind of place like caravanserai in other countries? (except Turkey)
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They seem to correspond pretty much to inn systems in Europe, at least by looking at Zagros's short explanation. Starting
in the Middle ages, regular tavernas were required by law to have
supplies for travellers and merchants, with fresh horses etc. These
inns (in Sweden called 'gästgiveri', dunno what other terms are) were nothing like the organised system Cyrus is describing though, and were
generally not constructed by the state (though some were), but normal
tavernas forced to be a part of the system. They were compensated by
for example vodka production monopoly. In Sweden those laws were not
removed until the 20th century.
Swedish "gästgiveri", in the borderlands on the pilgrim route to Trondheim, Norway.

Edited by Styrbiorn - 24-Feb-2009 at 14:46
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