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    Posted: 15-Mar-2007 at 15:25
In the Encyclopedia Brittanica(1962) it says that claims such as the one made below about the Great Pyramid are baseless.


"The [Great]Pyramid is located at the exact center of the Earth's land mass. That is, its East-West axis corresponds to the longest land parallel across the Earth, passing through Africa, Asia, and America. Similarly, the longest land meridian on Earth, through Asia, Africa, Europa, and Antarctica, also passes right through the Pyramid.* Since the Earth has enough land area to provide 3 billion possible building sites for the Pyramid, the odds of it's having been built where it is are 1 in 3 billion." Who is right and who is wrong?  And if it's true, what do you think about it. 

* i.e., There is more land surface in both its meridian (31st degree) and its latitude (30th degree) than in any other meridian or latitude of the globe.
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  Quote Zheng-ru Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Mar-2007 at 19:45
I could believe it. After all, some pyramids are located in reflection to a constellation. The Great Pyramids at Al-Jizah are precisely located to imitate Orion's belt. Then, if you search, you will find that the other locations of Orion also have pyramids in Egypt. And some of the explored shafts in the pyramids point directly to certain stars at certain times of the year.

So baseless? Perhaps, but someone did not write this for fun either!

Edited by Zheng-ru - 15-Mar-2007 at 19:46
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  Quote Decebal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Mar-2007 at 22:52
Yeah, right... It's not like the Egyptians controlled the whole world (and knew of the geography of the whole world), to be able to choose where they built the pyramid. They simply built it in a convenient location for them. Also, the assertion that the 31st meridian crosses the most landmass is false. Simply look on a map, and you'll see that if you move about 7 degres to the west, you get more landmass. I'm not quite sure about the parallel, but the 31st or the 45th seem just as likely candidates...
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  Quote Zheng-ru Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Mar-2007 at 23:00
Surely, some fragment of minor thought must have been put into where only one of the largest buildings in the world would be humbly built, no?
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  Quote Sharrukin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Mar-2007 at 01:17
I've read of such claims regarding the land of Israel.....from religious literature, of course.
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Originally posted by Sharrukin

I've read of such claims regarding the land of Israel.....from religious literature, of course.
 
Well Israel IS roughly the center of the world.  A straight shot out by sea from Tel Aviv  through the Mediteranean gets you to the Americas; a straight shot down through the gulf of Aqaba from Eilat gets you to the Indian ocean; a straight shot east gets you to Asia; a straight shot north gets you to Europe; a straight shot East gets you to Africa.
It's the first place east of Cairo that gets regularly rained on from "above". So I go with Israel as the center of the world over lower Egypt which is fed from "below" by the Nile. 


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  Quote Decebal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Mar-2007 at 10:10
You don't think that one could find hundreds of other places on Earth, where "straight shots" in certain directions take one to major geographical features? This is wishful thinking....
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  Quote Decebal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Mar-2007 at 10:14
Originally posted by Zheng-ru

Surely, some fragment of minor thought must have been put into where only one of the largest buildings in the world would be humbly built, no?
 
Yeah, sure, in an area where the rock base would support the weight, close enough to the Nile and suitable quarries so that materials could be transported and in a convenient enough location for the workers. Oh, and close to the desert, since in Egyptian mythology, it was in the western desert that the dead went towards the afterlife... That's the amount of thinking that went into the location.
The Egyptians did not have the geographical knowledge to know where the Americas were, or just how large the Aerth was, especially by the 4th dynasty. In fact, at the time, they still thought they controlled most of the Earth...
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  Quote Zheng-ru Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Mar-2007 at 17:03
Good point Decebal. That is all the thinking they did? I am slightly disappointed.

I like your Gandhi quotation though.
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  Quote Sharrukin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Mar-2007 at 02:39
Good point Decebal. That is all the thinking they did? I am slightly disappointed.
 
Egyptian civilization was quite conservative.  Being isolated from other civilizations, the Egyptians could afford (until the time of the Hyksos) to consider their "world" timeless.  What was true 100 years before, was true in the present time.  Hence, Egyptian art and architexture was varied very little in 3000 years of its history.  Their own inscriptions show that they only knew the west as inhabited by "Libyans", the south by "Nubians", the east by "Asiatics", and the north by "the Great Green" (i.e. the Mediterranean) which had islands inhabited by "Cretans" and north of them, the Haunebu (probably Mycenaean Greeks).   Their world was always such.  It was only after the Hyksos literally "burst their bubble" that the Egyptians took more interest in the world, and took a more active effort to "control" more of it by conquest and thus became more familiar with more distant lands, but it still was not a "world-wide" interest.  As late as about the time of pharoah Necho I (Herodotus, 4.42), the Egyptians knew that Africa was surrounded by water (which the Phoenicians knew from about 1000 BC). 
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  Quote Zheng-ru Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Mar-2007 at 17:31
Thanks Sharrukin, that is very interesting.

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