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Topic: Religion of Kurds? Posted: 17-Mar-2007 at 07:05 |
www.aleviforum.com this is a Turkish Alevi website. Many of Alevi members Kurd or Zaza(How do i know? because they write Kurdish or Zazaic), and even there are some Arabic Alevis.
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Posted: 17-Mar-2007 at 08:00 |
Good website, Erkut.
From that website:
Question:
Trkiye Alevileri Tuncelililerden mi ibaret? Atatrk konusunda hep 1937 Dersim ne srlyor. Orta ve Batı Anadoludaki Aleviler, Kars-Ardahan Aleviler sayı olarak Dersim Alevilerinden az mı?
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Tunceli-Sivas(doğu ileler)-Erzincan-Malatya(kuzey) en yoğun yerler..Yerleşim olarak yoğun yerler Diğer blgelerde yerleşimler arasında mesafe var.. Orta anadoluda ankırı 1 ile(şaban z) orum dağınık şekilde ... Tokat dağınık şekilde
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This is also what I was thinking.
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Posted: 26-Oct-2013 at 11:30 |
Many Kurds believe Islam in Shafi way(a branch in Sunni Islam) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shafi%27i#DemographicsAs you see, Dark Blue in East Turkey, West Iran and North Iraq  but yes some of them Alevi and Yazidi and some small communities are Jew and Christian
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Posted: 29-Oct-2013 at 13:19 |
Originally posted by selah
Originally posted by Bulldog
There is a huge difference between the two, Alawi were historically known as Nusayris, they believe in a trinity were Imam Ali is worshipped like a deity, it has some old pre-Islamic beliefs from the region theyre mostly from. Most Alawi are from the Levant, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine/Israel, there is a small community of a couple thousand in Turkey and they're sometimes mistaken as Alevi.
There are lots of sects are commongly all lumped together as "Alevi" and this is a major cause for the confusion people have over Alevi's.
Alevi basically is the continuation of Central Asian Turkic interpretations of Islam, its based upon Sufi mysticsm and doesnt reject pre-Islamic culture which may have some Shamanistic influences, Haci Bektash who was a pupil of Yesevi AlpEren schools spread it to Anatolia and the Balkans which was very sucessfull. |
You are almost right. I am Turk and our religion is Islam.Our sect is Alevi. In Alevi sect there is 'Dedelik' like imam but Dedelik pass by 'blood' like the old Turkish beleive KUT. You know you cannot be Jew but of course you can live like Jews you can call yourself Jew. Alevi Kurds or Araps are the same.
The other point that I want to explain we have to study on Zaza people well. Because in some old Turkish written sources you can easily reach that the Zaza people is the clan of Turks. ( Zaza-mon Zazas)
AlpEren means that the wizard and warrior . Like Dede Korkut. After Islam it'meaning came to the Imam and warrior.
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From what I understand the Zaza Kurds are descendants of Zoroastrians, and according to "Zarathushtra and Zoroastrianism" the Kurds define themselves as Zoroastrians.
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Posted: 29-Oct-2013 at 15:30 |
Originally posted by mojobadshah
From what I understand the Zaza Kurds are descendants of Zoroastrians, and according to "Zarathushtra and Zoroastrianism" the Kurds define themselves as Zoroastrians. |
Yazidism is similar with Zoroastrians, but not same. Maybe, ,it is preislamic religion of Kurds. Yazidism secret place are in North Iraq. However Zaza are mostly Alevi, not Yazidi and Zazas and Yazidis live in different regions
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Posted: 07-Nov-2013 at 03:12 |
ok in just few words can any one tell me what is the differences between hanafi and naqshbandi ?
and yes we turkmens are sunni hanafi but we use tengiri in namaz not allah so i think it's make little differences
Edited by yomud - 07-Nov-2013 at 03:15
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Posted: 07-Nov-2013 at 13:09 |
Originally posted by Ollios
Originally posted by mojobadshah
From what I understand the Zaza Kurds are descendants of Zoroastrians, and according to "Zarathushtra and Zoroastrianism" the Kurds define themselves as Zoroastrians. |
Yazidism is similar with Zoroastrians, but not same. Maybe, ,it is preislamic religion of Kurds. Yazidism secret place are in North Iraq.
However Zaza are mostly Alevi, not Yazidi and Zazas and Yazidis live in different regions
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I think the point that "Zarathushtra and Zoroastrianism" is that many Irano-Afghans understand that their religious heritage goes back to Zoroastrianism, and apparently some Irano-Afghan nations as a whole especially the Kurds and Tajiks ultimately identify with Zoroastrianism. I think this would be true as long as you were talking to educated Irano-Afghans.
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