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    Posted: 29-Dec-2009 at 05:06
For me the distribution of animals and the continental drift is very interesting. If we see that e.g. primates evolved in North america or Europe, how did they come to Africa? Or why do we have Ant-eaters in Germany allthough they evolved, as far as we know, in South America? And there are much more questions.
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You have told rather interesting facts...And you did the right thing to post this information here...
strikes me the fact that Lions lived in the middle east and Europe untill the 3rd century AD. The European lions are thought to have been a little bigger in size than the African lions and were extinct largely because of the huntings of the Roman empire. As you know Romans used lions for amusement and made them fight with gladiators.
I think lions live only in Africa and they are bigger than whenever else.
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I don't know about the rest of North America, but the Northest had big cats as recent as 5,000 ybp.  Saber toothed cats died out here approx. 8-9,000 ybp.  I've found a carving that depicts a saber toothed cat of some kind.  That would mean that they were still here during the late Paleo/
 early Archaic.  There is also evidence for an extinct form of bison and also the short faced bear.
 
BTW- Germany had their own specie of lion, or rather west southern Europe.  Check me on this, but I believe the UK also had big cats up until rather recent.  Aamof, there are several places in Britain where they believe there are still big cats living.  Noth America still has big cats but their not as big as a lion.  New England still has Mountain lions, [Cougars} as does West Virginia and several other states in that region.  Florida has the Florida Panther.  These aren't as big as an African lion, the panther averages 100-150 lbs, still a good sized animal.  Note- "the authorities" state that there are less than 200 breeding animals in Florida and Georgia.  Better informed sources place breeding animals at 1000 plus.[Sources such as the Florida Highway Patrol and local Fish and Wildlife officers]   
 
 


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Here is an interesting article on the origin of polar bears. Apparently they have been traced to Ireland.
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Really glad to know about the history of these animals
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European Lion (Panthera leo europaea) - Distributed in Southern Europe from the Iberia through to Liguria, Southern (Cisalpine) Gaul, as well as the Italian Peninsula. The full extent of it's range spread through the Balkans, into Greece and Macedonia, and Thrace. The European Lion was a significant part of Roman, Greek, Macedonian and Balkan Culture and Religion because of the power and majesty it symbolised. However, as a part of sport and hunting, the European Lion gradually diminished and became extinct around 1000AD. It was also used in Roman Gladiatorial arenas. There are numerous accounts of these beasts, including those by Herodotus and Aristotle.
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I agree with the sentiments expressed in the original post. Humans have killed, tortured, and consumed animals without impunity. It is saddening, if not utterly cruel, to say the least. Historiography also does not account for the treatment of animals, which is troubling.

In Beatrice and Virgil, Yann Martel has attempted to relate the Holocaust via a depiction of animal cruelty. Reviewers have torn him apart because they think it is cheap and offensive to compare the Holocaust with animal cruelty. That says it all, if you ask me. Why must we be offended because we're compared to animals? They are living beings , too.
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