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I am currently writing an Article for AE on the Abbasid empire. It is a fairly long general history. I have written the first part about the origins of it and I would be most thankful for anyone who would please give me and recommendations or links to more sources?
 

Origins (566-750)

 

The story of the Abbasid caliphate originally traces its roots back to Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib (where the etymology of the word Abbasid is based on); one of the younger uncles of the prophet Mohammed and member of the tribe of the Prophet Mohammed; the Quraish. It was this heritage that enabled them to have a suitable pretext for their eventual domination of much of the Islamic world by around 950 and rulers of Mecca as opposed to the Umayyads. As a result, the Abbasids were to become a major player in Islamic politics for many hundreds of years, and fundamentally, one of the key civilizations in shaping our world today.

 

Around 1712, a man named Muhammad ibn 'Ali (A great grandson of Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib) began to protest against the current state of power in the Middle East, and demand that sovereignty over Baghdad be returned to Mohammeds family. Intensive propaganda began around 718 in Iraq and Khurasan, and Muhammad was succeeded to his claims by his son Ibrahim the imam, who decided to concentrate his efforts on Khurasan. The protest gradually began to gain momentum, from the time of Umayyad Caliph, Umar II (682-720) to the reign of the Caliph Marwan II (688-750) where finally, a full scale revolt was organized against Umayyad power. Lead by Ibrahim the Imam, the revolutionaries found considerable success and was supported by the province of Khurasan after sending an embassy there in 745 lead by his friend Abu Muslim.    

 

In this conflict for power against the Umayyads, the Abbasids were largely successful, one of the reasons being their appealing to non-Muslim Arabs known as the Mawali who made up much of the lower classes of the Umayyad caliphate. It was the minorities like these who would eventually help cause the fall of the Umayyad caliphate. The decadent policies of the late Umayyad caliphs had failed to keep these minorities under control and thus, more liberal (by comparison at the time) and stronger caliphates such as the rising Abbasids would have been attractive to them. This propaganda was in the long run, very subversive to the Umayyad state and aided in the crumbling of their society, much to the Abbasids benefit. In 747, these events reached a climax that would eventually lead to the unravelling of Umayyad hegemony and ultimately the collapse of the Umayyad Caliphate.

 

Ibrahim the Imam, however, died after being captured by the Umayyad authorities in 747, but this could not stop of the inevitable course of fate. His brother, Abu al-'Abbas as-Saffah (later to become the first caliph of the Abbasid caliphate) soon took up his late brothers work and proceeded to march (now with a considerable force) to Iraq in 749 and on January 25th 750, met the Umayyad forces in a final pitched battle at the river Zab which would prove the ultimate destruction of the Abbasid sultanate.

 

Despite the numerical advantage for the Umayyad Caliph Marwan II; the battle was not decisive, as an already weakened Umayyad army (despite containing veterans in earlier campaigns against the Byzantine Empire) was demoralized and their support for their Caliph was waning. The Abbasid army, on the other hand, under the command of future Caliph Abu al-'Abbas as-Saffah (although not as large) contained many fresh recruits, and the air of victory was still present after their recent victories against other Umayyad forces. Not to mention that their size had also been increased with fresh numbers of Mawali, Persians and Abbasids who supported the rebellion.

 

The battle itself was a quick and bloody affair- the Abbasid army took the defensive by forming a fortified phalanx locked in tight formation. The Umayyad cavalry and later infantry simply hurled wave after wave of attackers at the near impregnable wall of spears and (not surprisingly) getting cut down in swathes in the process. It is possible that, due to the veteran nature of the Umayyad army, they believed that they could break the wall by fighting experience alone, but this proved to be ineffective- the Umayyad army retreated; leaving the battlefield completely demoralized and attempted to retreat across the river Zab where they were either drowned or butchered by the Abbasid army in pursuit.

 

All was not lost for the Umayyad state however; the caliph Marwan II and fled to Bursir- a small town in Lower Egypt, where he finally died in a small skirmish with the remainder of his army. The Umayyad caliphate was now officially dead in the Middle East, and Abu al-'Abbas as-Saffah was instated the new ruler of Baghdad and Caliph.

 

The recent civil war was thought by many prominent Islamic scholars to be a great conflict between good and evil. These feelings could have been justified by the Umayyads use of the black flag in battle, and the Abbasids the White. Many Islamic scholars also prophesized that Abu al-'Abbas as-Saffah was the Mahdi- a holy leader or saint of Islam.

Although the Umayyad state as a political entity had been well and truly destroyed in the Middle East, there were still some influences from surviving members of the Umayyad dynasty that, if allowed to continue, would have been subversive to the newly rising Abbasid caliphate. What was As-Saffahs solution to this? Elimination- the entire remainder of the Umayyad dynasty were invited to a royal banquet where they were subsequently clubbed to death. The only survivor, Abd ar-Rahman (731-788) escaped to Spain where he subsequently continued the Umayyad caliphate for roughly another three centuries.

 
...Any suggestions? I would appreciate it if people could give me a little more information on the origins, which I am not fully sure about. Since there are a lot of people from the middle east here, then that would be very helpful. Me being a Limey, I have not heard much about this topic and that is why it interests me.


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Just a little feedback, the general drift of it seems ok. However I think you've overplayed the role of non-Arabs and completely left out the fact that the Abbasids used the Alids & Shi'a to gain momentum for their movement. As Abbas was an uncle of the Prophet (pbuh) and also a  brother to Abu Talib (Father of Ali, whom the Shi'a revovled around, and whom the Alids were descended from) the Abbasids used this fact to garner support from those two communities, who were much more influential than non-Arabs.

Also a few notes:

You mentioned Baghdad a few times like here: "and demand that sovereignty over Baghdad be returned to Mohammeds family", yet Baghdad wasn't even established in this time I don't think, from where did you take this idea?

And this is I think an error in typing: "
met the Umayyad forces in a final pitched battle at the river Zab which would prove the ultimate destruction of the Abbasid sultanate"

I think you meant to say the destruction of the Umayyads?

As for more information on the origins of the Abbasids, there's not really much more to say. They were as you mentioned descendants of Abbas, specifically descendants of Abdullah Ibn Abbas (ra) who was the cousin of Muhammad (pbuh) and a very prominent Islamic Scholar, often called the father of Tafsir (Qur'anic Exegesis).

Also you might want to add the etymology for the title as-Saffah which the first Abbasid Khalifah earned. It means "The blood thirsty & ruthless killer" or perhaps you might like to leave it out.


 

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Thanks very much. This is, of course going to take quite a while to fully complete- I've now managed to reach the golden age and the rise of the Abbasid empire as an Islamic power.
 
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...Right, here is my latest update on this article including Qutuz's recommendations. I have now to the the reign of the Caliph Al-Mansur:
 

Origins (566-750)

 

The story of the Abbasid caliphate originally traces its roots back to Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib (where the etymology of the word Abbasid is based on); one of the younger uncles of the prophet Mohammed and member of the tribe of the Prophet Mohammed; the Quraish. It was this heritage that enabled them to have a suitable pretext for their eventual domination of much of the Islamic world by around 950 and rulers of Mecca as opposed to the Umayyads. As a result, the Abbasids were to become a major player in Islamic politics for many hundreds of years, and fundamentally, one of the key civilizations in shaping our world today.

 

Around 1712, a man named Muhammad ibn 'Ali (A great grandson of Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib) began to protest against the current state of power in the Middle East, and demand that sovereignty over Mecca and the Middle East be returned to Mohammeds family. Intensive propaganda began around 718 in Iraq and Khurasan, and Muhammad was succeeded to his claims by his son Ibrahim the imam, who decided to concentrate his efforts on Khurasan. The protest gradually began to gain momentum, from the time of Umayyad Caliph, Umar II (682-720) to the reign of the Caliph Marwan II (688-750) where finally, a full scale revolt was organized against Umayyad power. Lead by Ibrahim the Imam, the revolutionaries found considerable success and was supported by the province of Khurasan after sending an embassy there in 745 lead by his friend Abu Muslim.    

 

In this conflict for power against the Umayyads, the Abbasids were largely successful, one of the reasons being their appealing to non-Muslim Arabs known as the Mawali who made up much of the lower classes of the Umayyad caliphate. It was the minorities like these who would eventually help cause the fall of the Umayyad caliphate. Other such examples of Abbasid minority support amongst the Umayyad Caliphate was their emphasis on the fact that Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib, the uncle of Mohammed, was also an uncle to Abu Talib, a man holy to Shia Muslims and the Alid arabs (from whom they were descended). The decadent policies of the late Umayyad caliphs had failed to keep these minorities under control and thus, more liberal (by comparison at the time) and stronger caliphates such as the rising Abbasids would have been attractive to them. This propaganda was in the long run, very subversive to the Umayyad state and aided in the crumbling of their society, much to the Abbasids benefit. In 747, these events reached a climax that would eventually lead to the unravelling of Umayyad hegemony and ultimately the collapse of the Umayyad Caliphate.

 

Ibrahim the Imam, however, died after being captured by the Umayyad authorities in 747, but this could not stop of the inevitable course of fate. His brother, Abu al-'Abbas as-Saffah (later to become the first caliph of the Abbasid caliphate) soon took up his late brothers work and proceeded to march (now with a considerable force) to Iraq in 749 and on January 25th 750, met the Umayyad forces in a final pitched battle at the river Zab which would prove the ultimate destruction of the Umayyad sultanate.

 

Despite the numerical advantage for the Umayyad Caliph Marwan II; the battle was not decisive, as an already weakened Umayyad army (despite containing veterans in earlier campaigns against the Byzantine Empire) was demoralized and their support for their Caliph was waning. The Abbasid army, on the other hand, under the command of future Caliph Abu al-'Abbas as-Saffah (although not as large) contained many fresh recruits, and the air of victory was still present after their recent victories against other Umayyad forces. Not to mention that their size had also been increased with fresh numbers of Mawali, Persians and Abbasids who supported the rebellion.

 

The battle itself was a quick and bloody affair- the Abbasid army took the defensive by forming a fortified phalanx locked in tight formation. The Umayyad cavalry and later infantry simply hurled wave after wave of attackers at the near impregnable wall of spears and (not surprisingly) getting cut down in swathes in the process. It is possible that, due to the veteran nature of the Umayyad army, they believed that they could break the wall by fighting experience alone, but this proved to be ineffective- the Umayyad army retreated; leaving the battlefield completely demoralized and attempted to retreat across the river Zab where they were either drowned or butchered by the Abbasid army in pursuit.

 

All was not lost for the Umayyad state however; the caliph Marwan II and fled to Bursir- a small town in Lower Egypt, where he finally died in a small skirmish with the remainder of his army. The Umayyad caliphate was now officially dead in the Middle East, and Abu al-'Abbas as-Saffah was instated the new ruler of Damascus (then the seat of Umayyad power) and Caliph.

 

The recent civil war was thought by many prominent Islamic scholars to be a great conflict between good and evil. These feelings could have been justified by the Umayyads use of the black flag in battle, and the Abbasids the White. Many Islamic scholars also prophesized that Abu al-'Abbas as-Saffah was the Mahdi- a holy leader or saint of Islam.

Although the Umayyad state as a political entity had been well and truly destroyed in the Middle East, there were still some influences from surviving members of the Umayyad dynasty that, if allowed to continue, would have been subversive to the newly rising Abbasid caliphate. What was As-Saffahs solution to this? Elimination- the entire remainder of the Umayyad dynasty were invited to a royal banquet where they were subsequently clubbed to death. It was events like these that gave the first Abbasid Caliph the title of As-Saffah, or The blood thirsty & ruthless killer. The Abbasids thus inherited the vast empire that the Umayyads had forged over hundreds of years that stretched from the Pyrenees to Armenia. The only notable noble survivor of the Umayyad dynasty was one Abd ar-Rahman (731-788) escaped to Spain where he subsequently continued the Umayyad caliphate for roughly another three centuries. Islamic Spain remained a rival to the Abbasid state for many centuries, as the Umayyads there set up their state as the legitimate alternative to the Abbasid state.

 

Rise and Golden age (750-883)

 

With the largest source of resistance eliminated (The Umayyads), most of the Middle East was now firmly under Abbasid control. This must have been due to their preservation of the bureaucracies and mechanics that kept the vast Umayyad Empire in check, as there were no large scale resistances from local leaders or external sources against the new dynasty instated in Iraq. Thus we must assume that the Abbasid Empire left many of these institutions and organizations in place to maintain their new empire.

 

Almost immediately after the Abbasid Caliphate had been instated, new trouble brewed in the east. In the Abbasid territories that are today Kyrgyzstan, a power struggle was soon emerging between forces of the Chinese tang Dynasty and those of the newly formed Abbasid Caliphate. In 751, an Abbasid army under the command Ziyad ibn Salih numbering roughly 50000 to 150000 troops and a Tang army under the command of Gao Xianzhi, Li Siye and Duan Xiushi met on the banks of the river Talas to fight one of the most decisive battles concerning the control of Central Asia. The Chinese army were eventually defeated following the general rout of their infantry after a heavy attack by Abbasid heavy cavalry. The defeat was mainly, however, the result of the defection of Qarluq mercenaries who were hired to fight by the Tang. The Qarluq cut a large proportion of the Chinese forces off from the main body of the army. This enabled the Abbasid pockets to deal with the Chinese in small pockets of resistance rather than one single engagement. This battle was instrumental for aiding the eventual spread of the Muslim religion throughout central Asia and parts of China. The general commander of the Tang forces, Gao Xianzhi, was able to escape with a small number of troops, but the majority of the Tang forces were butchered. Although the Tang managed to raise another army fairly quickly, they never did return to this area in large numbers, at least not to engage in further military operations with the Abbasids again.

 

This battle did not only allow the Abbasids to extend their influence deeper into central Asia, but interestingly enough, it also brought the technology of paper making into the Middle East as a result by Chinese prisoners captured from the battle.

 

After two successive wars, first against the Umayyads, and then against the Tang, Abu al-'Abbas as-Saffah began to embark on the building of his new caliphate. His supporters were heavily represented in the new caliphate as a reward for aiding him in his successful revolution. He found it hard, however, to gain the support of many of the peoples who had aided him in his struggle, partially with the Shia Muslims, as the Abbasids claimed legitimacy by their heritage to the prophet Mohammed. Once in power, the Abbasid state declared Sunni Islam the official state religion, and withdrew all support for any other form of Islam. Abu al-Abbas as-Saffah had turned his back on his promises he made to the Shia community, and this would have severe repercussions for many Abbasid caliphs later in the days of the Caliphate.   

 

With the exceptions of the Shias, Abu al-`Abbas's attempted to reward most of the peoples who had taken part in his revolution, and invoked a general reform of the army. Asides from the rank and file, he also made large changes to the officer class, selecting Abu Muslim (an intelligent man with a talent for soldiering who would serve in the army until 755) to head this new army. This reform came to incorporate non-Muslims and non-Arabs in an attempt to contrast with the Umayyad army, who had refused any soldiers that were of either background.

 

Abu al-Abbas as-Saffah, The blood thirsty & ruthless killer (750-755), died on 755 and was replaced by Abu Ja'far Abdallah ibn Muhammad al-Mansur, or Al-Mansur (754-775). It was only until this Caliphs rule that the changes that were made under the revolution were seen to have a large affect. Despite the Abbasids Arab routes, many more pro-Persian changes were made to the Caliphate, such as the introduction of Sassanid governmental and count structures in some areas. In order to reign supreme, however, he had to deal with several contenders, the most prestigious of these being Abu Muslim, the commander of the army recently instated under Abu al-Abbas as-Saffah. Abu Muslim was now the much liked, and much respected governor of Iran and Transoxiana. Al-Mansurs authority now reigned supreme.

 

The first major change that Al-Mansur made to the organization to his new state was the movement of the capital from Damascus to Iraq in 762. The main reason for this may perhaps be to locate the seat of Abbasid power closer to the Persian and Arab support base that that had helped Ibrahim the Imams rebellion succeed. The new Baghdad was built on the Tigris near Ctestiphon and was also conveniently closer to Mecca, which must have been an added advantage, as this would have allowed the new Caliphate to exercise its new authority over the holy city of Islam.

 

A new internal structure for the court of the caliph was devised. New positions, such as that of grand vizier were instated, and more power was given to local leaders which would eventually result in a decentralization of the empire and a gradual reduction of power from the Caliph, resulting in a decrease of his powers and more depictions of him being a figurehead rather than a head of state. This is a typical example of the Abbasid Empires adoption of both Persian and Arabian systems of state. The Abbasids saw themselves not only as the decedents of Mohammeds uncle, but also as decedents of the Partian and Sassanid states in Persia. This mix of culture can be seen in many aspects of Abbasid culture and art, as well as distinct Hellenistic and pre-Islamic Mesopotamian influences taking place.

 

 
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What are your sources?


I have found some typos for now, more comments to follow later.

 

Around 1712, a man named Muhammad ibn 'Ali   -you have a typo here, should be 712

The new Baghdad was built on the Tigris near Ctestiphon  - Should be Ctesiphon and also you might want to rephrase it as the new capital, Baghdad,

decedents - descendants

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My sources are the times medieval history of Europe, The times historical atlas, princeton.edu, wikipedia.org, some general knowledge that I had previously researched and obviously recommendations from you lot. I have also scanned over some books on middle eastern history and have just generally, you know, read a fair bit around the subject. What do you think of the article apart from those type errors?
 

Origins (566-750)

 

The story of the Abbasid caliphate originally traces its roots back to Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib (where the etymology of the word Abbasid is based on); one of the younger uncles of the prophet Mohammed and member of the tribe of the Prophet Mohammed; the Quraish. It was this heritage that enabled them to have a suitable pretext for their eventual domination of much of the Islamic world by around 950 and rulers of Mecca as opposed to the Umayyads. As a result, the Abbasids were to become a major player in Islamic politics for many hundreds of years, and fundamentally, one of the key civilizations in shaping our world today.

 

Around 712, a man named Muhammad ibn 'Ali (A great grandson of Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib) began to protest against the current state of power in the Middle East, and demand that sovereignty over Mecca and the Middle East be returned to Mohammeds family. Intensive propaganda began around 718 in Iraq and Khurasan, and Muhammad was succeeded to his claims by his son Ibrahim the imam, who decided to concentrate his efforts on Khurasan. The protest gradually began to gain momentum, from the time of Umayyad Caliph, Umar II (682-720) to the reign of the Caliph Marwan II (688-750) where finally, a full scale revolt was organized against Umayyad power. Lead by Ibrahim the Imam, the revolutionaries found considerable success and was supported by the province of Khurasan after sending an embassy there in 745 lead by his friend Abu Muslim.    

 

In this conflict for power against the Umayyads, the Abbasids were largely successful, one of the reasons being their appealing to non-Muslim Arabs known as the Mawali who made up much of the lower classes of the Umayyad caliphate. It was the minorities like these who would eventually help cause the fall of the Umayyad caliphate. Other such examples of Abbasid minority support amongst the Umayyad Caliphate was their emphasis on the fact that Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib, the uncle of Mohammed, was also an uncle to Abu Talib, a man holy to Shia Muslims and the Alid arabs (from whom they were descended). The decadent policies of the late Umayyad caliphs had failed to keep these minorities under control and thus, more liberal (by comparison at the time) and stronger caliphates such as the rising Abbasids would have been attractive to them. This propaganda was in the long run, very subversive to the Umayyad state and aided in the crumbling of their society, much to the Abbasids benefit. In 747, these events reached a climax that would eventually lead to the unravelling of Umayyad hegemony and ultimately the collapse of the Umayyad Caliphate.

 

Ibrahim the Imam, however, died after being captured by the Umayyad authorities in 747, but this could not stop of the inevitable course of fate. His brother, Abu al-'Abbas as-Saffah (later to become the first caliph of the Abbasid caliphate) soon took up his late brothers work and proceeded to march (now with a considerable force) to Iraq in 749 and on January 25th 750, met the Umayyad forces in a final pitched battle at the river Zab which would prove the ultimate destruction of the Umayyad sultanate.

 

Despite the numerical advantage for the Umayyad Caliph Marwan II; the battle was not decisive, as an already weakened Umayyad army (despite containing veterans in earlier campaigns against the Byzantine Empire) was demoralized and their support for their Caliph was waning. The Abbasid army, on the other hand, under the command of future Caliph Abu al-'Abbas as-Saffah (although not as large) contained many fresh recruits, and the air of victory was still present after their recent victories against other Umayyad forces. Not to mention that their size had also been increased with fresh numbers of Mawali, Persians and Abbasids who supported the rebellion.

 

The battle itself was a quick and bloody affair- the Abbasid army took the defensive by forming a fortified phalanx locked in tight formation. The Umayyad cavalry and later infantry simply hurled wave after wave of attackers at the near impregnable wall of spears and (not surprisingly) getting cut down in swathes in the process. It is possible that, due to the veteran nature of the Umayyad army, they believed that they could break the wall by fighting experience alone, but this proved to be ineffective- the Umayyad army retreated; leaving the battlefield completely demoralized and attempted to retreat across the river Zab where they were either drowned or butchered by the Abbasid army in pursuit.

 

All was not lost for the Umayyad state however; the caliph Marwan II and fled to Bursir- a small town in Lower Egypt, where he finally died in a small skirmish with the remainder of his army. The Umayyad caliphate was now officially dead in the Middle East, and Abu al-'Abbas as-Saffah was instated the new ruler of Damascus (then the seat of Umayyad power) and Caliph.

 

The recent civil war was thought by many prominent Islamic scholars to be a great conflict between good and evil. These feelings could have been justified by the Umayyads use of the black flag in battle, and the Abbasids the White. Many Islamic scholars also prophesized that Abu al-'Abbas as-Saffah was the Mahdi- a holy leader or saint of Islam.

Although the Umayyad state as a political entity had been well and truly destroyed in the Middle East, there were still some influences from surviving members of the Umayyad dynasty that, if allowed to continue, would have been subversive to the newly rising Abbasid caliphate. What was As-Saffahs solution to this? Elimination- the entire remainder of the Umayyad dynasty were invited to a royal banquet where they were subsequently clubbed to death. It was events like these that gave the first Abbasid Caliph the title of As-Saffah, or The blood thirsty & ruthless killer. The Abbasids thus inherited the vast empire that the Umayyads had forged over hundreds of years that stretched from the Pyrenees to Armenia. The only notable noble survivor of the Umayyad dynasty was one Abd ar-Rahman (731-788) escaped to Spain where he subsequently continued the Umayyad caliphate for roughly another three centuries. Islamic Spain remained a rival to the Abbasid state for many centuries, as the Umayyads there set up their state as the legitimate alternative to the Abbasid state.

 

Rise and Golden age (750-883)

 

With the largest source of resistance eliminated (The Umayyads), most of the Middle East was now firmly under Abbasid control. This must have been due to their preservation of the bureaucracies and mechanics that kept the vast Umayyad Empire in check, as there were no large scale resistances from local leaders or external sources against the new dynasty instated in Iraq. Thus we must assume that the Abbasid Empire left many of these institutions and organizations in place to maintain their new empire.

 

Almost immediately after the Abbasid Caliphate had been instated, new trouble brewed in the east. In the Abbasid territories that are today Kyrgyzstan, a power struggle was soon emerging between forces of the Chinese tang Dynasty and those of the newly formed Abbasid Caliphate. In 751, an Abbasid army under the command Ziyad ibn Salih numbering roughly 50000 to 150000 troops and a Tang army under the command of Gao Xianzhi, Li Siye and Duan Xiushi met on the banks of the river Talas to fight one of the most decisive battles concerning the control of Central Asia. The Chinese army were eventually defeated following the general rout of their infantry after a heavy attack by Abbasid heavy cavalry. The defeat was mainly, however, the result of the defection of Qarluq mercenaries who were hired to fight by the Tang. The Qarluq cut a large proportion of the Chinese forces off from the main body of the army. This enabled the Abbasid pockets to deal with the Chinese in small pockets of resistance rather than one single engagement. This battle was instrumental for aiding the eventual spread of the Muslim religion throughout central Asia and parts of China. The general commander of the Tang forces, Gao Xianzhi, was able to escape with a small number of troops, but the majority of the Tang forces were butchered. Although the Tang managed to raise another army fairly quickly, they never did return to this area in large numbers, at least not to engage in further military operations with the Abbasids again.

 

This battle did not only allow the Abbasids to extend their influence deeper into central Asia, but interestingly enough, it also brought the technology of paper making into the Middle East as a result by Chinese prisoners captured from the battle.

 

After two successive wars, first against the Umayyads, and then against the Tang, Abu al-'Abbas as-Saffah began to embark on the building of his new caliphate. His supporters were heavily represented in the new caliphate as a reward for aiding him in his successful revolution. He found it hard, however, to gain the support of many of the peoples who had aided him in his struggle, partially with the Shia Muslims, as the Abbasids claimed legitimacy by their heritage to the prophet Mohammed. Once in power, the Abbasid state declared Sunni Islam the official state religion, and withdrew all support for any other form of Islam. Abu al-Abbas as-Saffah had turned his back on his promises he made to the Shia community, and this would have severe repercussions for many Abbasid caliphs later in the days of the Caliphate.   

 

With the exceptions of the Shias, Abu al-`Abbas's attempted to reward most of the peoples who had taken part in his revolution, and invoked a general reform of the army. Asides from the rank and file, he also made large changes to the officer class, selecting Abu Muslim (an intelligent man with a talent for soldiering who would serve in the army until 755) to head this new army. This reform came to incorporate non-Muslims and non-Arabs in an attempt to contrast with the Umayyad army, who had refused any soldiers that were of either background.

 

Abu al-Abbas as-Saffah, The blood thirsty & ruthless killer (750-755), died on 755 and was replaced by Abu Ja'far Abdallah ibn Muhammad al-Mansur, or Al-Mansur (754-775). It was only until this Caliphs rule that the changes that were made under the revolution were seen to have a large affect. Despite the Abbasids Arab routes, many more pro-Persian changes were made to the Caliphate, such as the introduction of Sassanid governmental and count structures in some areas. In order to reign supreme, however, he had to deal with several contenders, the most prestigious of these being Abu Muslim, the commander of the army recently instated under Abu al-Abbas as-Saffah. Abu Muslim was now the much liked, and much respected governor of Iran and Transoxiana. Al-Mansurs authority now reigned supreme.

 

The first major change that Al-Mansur made to the organization to his new state was the movement of the capital from Damascus to Iraq in 762. The main reason for this may perhaps be to locate the seat of Abbasid power closer to the Persian and Arab support base that that had helped Ibrahim the Imams rebellion succeed. The new Baghdad was built on the Tigris near Ctestiphon and was also conveniently closer to Mecca, which must have been an added advantage, as this would have allowed the new Caliphate to exercise its new authority over the holy city of Islam.

 

The new Baghdad was an ingenious affair, and consisted of a series of rings around a central plaza. First was a circular wall, then an outer suburbs, arranged in a ring, surrounded by its own wall, then, further in, there were more central areas of the city and then, further still was a circular plaza containing the palace, treasury, barracks and mosque. This ideas was indeed a highly advanced feat of architecture but there was one thing that the Caliph and his architects had perhaps not taken into consideration. This was population demographics and the gradual change of class size and prestige. As a result, the strictly oriented rings containing certain suburbs for certain classes soon broke down and smaller districts began to spill over the city walls. The idea simply did not allow enough leniency for population and social growth unlike cities like early Rome, which were very much dependent on their populations, and not architectural concept like Baghdad was.

 

A new internal structure for the court of the caliph was devised. New positions, such as that of grand vizier were instated, and more power was given to local leaders which would eventually result in a decentralization of the empire and a gradual reduction of power from the Caliph, resulting in a decrease of his powers and more depictions of him being a figurehead rather than a head of state. The new Abbasid court under Al-Mansur also placed many Persians and Arabs in positions of authority as compensation for their help in the revolution. These advantages, however, were not offered to Shia Muslims after the first Caliph, Abu al-Abbas as-Saffah actively promoted Sunni orthodoxy. The main mechanics of state and the court were placed in the hands of the Persian Barmakid family. This is a typical example of the Abbasid Empires adoption of both Persian and Arabian systems of state. The Abbasids saw themselves not only as the descendants of Mohammeds uncle, but also as descendants of the Parthian and Sassanid states in Persia. This mix of culture can be seen in many aspects of Abbasid culture and art, as well as distinct Hellenistic and pre-Islamic Mesopotamian influences taking place. This was aided by the blooming paper industry that had recently arrived in the Middle East from captured Tang Chinamen in the battle of Talas in 751.

 

Al-Mansurs reign also saw a large percentage of the citizens of the Caliphate convert to Islam. In 750, roughly 8% of the citizens were Muslims, but this would almost double to around 15% after Al-Mansurs reign.

 
Right, I have made those changes that you recommended, Decebal, and above is the now edited article. I did not quite follow what you said about Ctestaphon- please be a little clearer and re-phrase your point. What do you think of the actual article and historical content, though? Thanks for the help!


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  Quote Decebal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Nov-2006 at 12:19

The article was fairly good overall. The point I had mae about Ctesiphon was simply that you had misspelled it.

Below are some sites that you might find useful:


http://www.al-bab.com/arab/history.htm -lots of good links to scholarly articles and lectures.

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/med/wiet.html
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/1000baghdad.html


I also recommend reading Phillip Hitti's History of the Arabs as an excellent overview.

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  Quote Qutuz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Nov-2006 at 17:00
Earl,

My sources are the times medieval history of Europe, The times historical atlas, princeton.edu, wikipedia.org, some general knowledge that I had previously researched...


Just a suggestion, it seems that what you really lack here is Islamic sources (remember this is an Islamic history). Imagine if someone tried to give us a history of Europe, say in the time of Charlemagne, using only sources from the Middle East. Wouldn't it make sense to get information from those who were actually there and documented it? Because most of the European sources are just revised and altered versions of the original Islamic/Arabic sources anyway, but with a slant added to them which was befitting of the political relationship at the time.

I know most Islamic sources would obviously be in Arabic (or Persian, Turkish Urdu etc.) and therefore are difficult to access, but there's a few very good translations done.

Here is an excellent 3 volume work translated from Urdu, it actually is a compiled work using all 3 of the major Islamic sources of history (at-Tabari, Ibn Kathir & as-Suyuti) as well as others.

The History of Islam (3 Volume Set)

Another one is the translation of at-Tabari (undoubtedly one of the most authentic sources on Abbasid history) by UNESCO. I have volume 32 here (the reunification of the Abbasid Caliphate, the period of al-Ma'mun) and it is an excellent read.

The History of at-Tabari
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  Quote Qutuz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Nov-2006 at 03:21
Another excellent book which covers all Islamic history right up until the collapse of the Ottoman Caliphate, which is a lot cheaper than the other two is this one:

A Brief History Of Islam

But it's quite expensive on Amazon, try one of these links if you're interested:

Simply Islam Online Books

Online Islamic Store

This book as the title suggests is 'brief', but could probably give you all the details you need.

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  Quote Aster Thrax Eupator Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Nov-2006 at 04:39
I have got a rather interesting book from my local library just called "The middle east- 2000 years of Islamic history" which has a rather large section on the Abbasid caliphate.
 
Have you heard about that new history of the Arab peoples by Albert Hourani? That's supposed to be a good read.
 
I'm not sure under which Caliph I should put the decline, though...
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  Quote Qutuz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Nov-2006 at 06:21
Have you heard about that new history of the Arab peoples by Albert Hourani? That's supposed to be a good read


Nope haven't heard of it. As I mentioned though I really think you need to look to some Islamic sources.

If you like I can scan some pages of 'A Brief History' for you to have a look at. Just tell me which period (ie. under the rule of which Khaleefah's specifically) you're interested in.

I'm not sure under which Caliph I should put the decline, though..


I always consider it to have peaked with Harun ar-Rashid and begun to decline with him. His splitting of power between his two sons is really what began the decline in my opinion.

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Thanks for your offer- could you please scan (if you can) sections many of the mid Abbasid Caliphs including Harun and Mau'uam. The most complex part of my article will be the begining of the decline. The rise was easy, as they inherited most of their systems from the Umayyads. I wonder if they politically deserve to be called adept- after all, they used mainly Umayyad styles of organization and did not develop a very large amount of their own. It does seem like they were, as newton said "standing on the shoulders of giants" to a large degree. But that does not reduce their intellectual merit- it seems to me that they spread many pieces of Greek teaching and civilization to the middle east and ultimatley gave the arabs their unique understanding of medicine and biology, as such texts and pliny the elder and galen were translated into arabic and persian.
 
...Sorry for that babble- so you would recommend that I should begin the decline section with Harun al-Rashid? Okay, that sounds good.
 
I'm going to start the fall section with Tughril Beg's annexation and the invasion of the mongols (I think) in 1258. I have decided not to (at least initially) speak about the continuation of the caliphs in egypt until Selim II, because I do not think it is very relavant to my project.
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  Quote Decebal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Nov-2006 at 09:45
Originally posted by Earl Aster

 
Have you heard about that new history of the Arab peoples by Albert Hourani? That's supposed to be a good read.
 
From what I heard, it's garbage. It's a very disjointed read apparently: not enough information for someone in the know, and very confusing for someone who doesn't knwo much about it. Try the other recommendations that people have given you on this thread. I personally thought that Hitti's book, though a bit older, is an excellent read, and it focuses on the period between the 6th and the 15th centuries.
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  Quote Aster Thrax Eupator Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Nov-2006 at 11:23
Yes, although some stuff in waterstones is good, it does seem that it was on the 3 for 2 table a little too much...
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  Quote Zagros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Nov-2006 at 14:41
The non-Arab Abu Muslim was instrumantal in their rise to power, they even feared his power so much that they cold bloodedly murdered him after they had used and abused his services.
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  Quote Aster Thrax Eupator Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Nov-2006 at 12:37
Thanks- so should I just put in that As-Saffah killed Abu Muslim after he had used his services to aid the Abbasid struggle for power?
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  Quote Ahmed The Fighter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Nov-2006 at 10:06

 Nice Job Earl The Abbasids era is my favorite in whole history it was a very complicated era many states rised and fallen,My recommendiations to you are Like Qutuz wrote above you should search in Isalmic sources like:

1. Tarikh Al-Umam wa Al-Mulook by Muhammed Bin Jareer Al-Tabri(The History Of Nations And Kings).

2. Al-Kamil F AL-Tarikh By Ez Al-Deen Abu Al-Hassan Ali Bin AL- Atheer(The Completed History).

3.Tarikh Ibn Khaldoon by Abd Al-ruhman Ibn Khaldoon (History of Ibn Khaldoon).

4.Al-Bidaya Wa Al-Nihaya by Isamael Bin Katheer (The Begining and The End).
5. Tarikh Al-Yaaqubi by Ahmed Bin Aby Yaaqub(History of Al-Yaaqubi).
And more.
I redthe Origins and I would like to correct a small things.
First: Ibrahim the Imam was arrest before the begining of the revolt and died by poison in a prison near Harran.

Second:You wrote that the Abbasid army commanded by Abu Al-Abbas actually the army commanded by his uncle Abd Allah Bin Ali and Abu Al-Abbas was never command any army cause he was consider far important than field commander.
Third: you wrote that the battle was not decisive which battle you meant if you meant Zab I disagree with you it was the Battle that decided the war if  the Umyyads won this battle they would recover all their losses.
Fourth:about the flags actually the Abbasids used th Black flag and the Umayyads the white.

Fifth:Abu Jaafar Al-Mansur the second Abbasid caliph killed Abu Muslim not As-saffah.
Sixth:you mentioned that the shifted the capital from Damascus to Baghdad actually the shifted it first to Hashimyate Al-Kufa near Kufa city then to Hashimyate Al-anbar near today Ramadi then Abu Jaafar build baghdad in 762-766 AD.
Regards.


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  Quote Aster Thrax Eupator Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Nov-2006 at 09:17
Thanks for this help- I really needed some help with this article.
Sorry for the lag- I've been heavily preoccupied for a while, but I can assure you that I will be able to finsh it before Christmas.
Thank you again for all of the help!
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The article is devoid of the Mutazalite episode, the development of humanist philosophy by al-kindi. The developement of Islamic jurispudence, where two of the four such famous schools were founded in Baghdad alone, and exegesis. The Asharite school to which would belong the likes of Abu Hasan-al asharite, Razi, Al-ghizali and Omar Khayyaam. The giants in sciences; khwarzimi, ibn sina(avicena) etc. too many to note.
 
I dont think you will finish before christmas.LOL
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Didn't one of the Caliphs personally found and teach in one of them?
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