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    Posted: 19-Dec-2004 at 19:24
The Byzantines and the Persians wore themselves out in their bloodiest war, which lasted 25 years (603-628), and ended just before the Arabs burst onto the world scene.  And then the Persians followed that up with a four-year civil war, between Kavadh II and Yazdegerd III.  That's why today's Zoroastrians use a calendar that counts years from 632 A.D.; they are marking the coronation of Yazdegerd, the last king who followed their creed.
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Posts: 2979 		  Quote azimuth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Dec-2004 at 14:06

I copied the following from Wikipedia

 

With the ascent of al-Walid I, Hajjaj's reputation grew due to his selection and deployment of numerous successful generals who expanded the Islamic empire. Hajjaj was given these powers due to his high status in the Umayyad government, and he exhibited a lot of control over the provinces that he governed.

Among these generals was the teen-aged Muhammad bin Qasim, who in 712 was sent to Sindh in India. Compared to his general Hajjaj was more hardline insisting that pagans (or those who were not people of the book) be killed or enslaved.

Qutaibah bin Muslim was sent to conquer Turkestan which he did, even penetrating the borders of China and getting a tribute payment from the Chinese emperor. Perhaps his most successful general was Musa bin Nusair who consolidated control over North Africa and who sent Tariq bin Ziyad to invade Spain.

 

those were arabs not turkish

 
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Arabs didnt reach China they reached its protectorate, and Islam was introduced to India by Turks, not Arabs.

Arab sucess has to do with skilled generalship and that Sassanids and Byzantium had just concluded a very destructive war.
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Originally posted by Christscrusader

Will to fight and the weakness of areas they conquered.

they were not weak

so typical of western  to undermine such eastern POWER

Alexander the "Great"  couldn't controle India,  Arabs did ( the Arab General was a teenager  younger than Alex)

Alexander the "Great" couldn't reach China,    Arabs did

 

and that was done in 1 to 2 years with taking spain too.

 

 

 



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Originally posted by Christscrusader

Will to fight and the weakness of areas they conquered.

Yes, but the Byzantines, and the Sassanids? Those were not weak states at all.
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Will to fight and the weakness of areas they conquered.
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Just how were the early Muslims able to topple Sassanid Persia and pretty much everything else?

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