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    Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 15:16
I saw a Hun carpet,there was a Griffon(ı am sure that it was a griffon,not eagle or lion!) killing a black goat.
 
İn the noghai flag,there also a griffon.Somebody think that it is dragon,but ı think it looks like griffon much.I am not sure but ı think it is.
 
And in the flag of Seljuks,there is an eagle.But look at it carefully,is it really eagle?I dont think so...
 
Wasn't griffon used first by Europeans?
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I know that Griffons come from Greek Mythology.I have never knew thta Turk Tribes used it as a symbol.
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Griffons are evident in Babylon, also in Persepolis.
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Wern't they also used in China?
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What's a griffon?  That animal on the Nogay Flag that looks like a dog with wings?
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i thought the greeks got them from the east

very popular in persia
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I am sure that the animal on the Hun carpet was a Griffon.İt was killing a big black goat.Yes ı looked again,it was a griffon.
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just did a bit of poking around.

I think these things are saka/scythian or eastern, (though they also appear in minion art). found this website

edit: this website would answer you questions on their origins, it states saka



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Originally posted by Turk Nomad

I am sure that the animal on the Hun carpet was a Griffon.İt was killing a big black goat.Yes ı looked again,it was a griffon.
it probably is, what the date on the carpet?

half/half animal or animals/men is pretty common anyway.
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It has a kanine or feline body, with a head that looks like a cross between an eagle (with beak) and a lion. It also has angel like wings.
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Originally posted by Leonidas

Originally posted by Turk Nomad

I am sure that the animal on the Hun carpet was a Griffon.İt was killing a big black goat.Yes ı looked again,it was a griffon.
it probably is, what the date on the carpet?

half/half animal or animals/men is pretty common anyway.
 
İt was from Asia Hun Empire.I don't know this empire's name in English,may be Xiong-Nu
 
Well,ı am expressing  the picture from my 10th class General Turk History book:
A white Griffon(there are blue blots on it's wings,wings are Eagle Wings),and have a lion body with a eagle head.But also have two black horns.
It is attacking a very big Black Goat.Goat has a white head.
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My recent avtar is a griffon , it belongs to scythians, found in Iranian Azerbaijan, even Iran Air logo is a griffon.
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you're right, it looks like a persepolis griffon.
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Exactly what kind of griffon was this? Was it like a Homa

or a simurgh?

or was it more european?
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Originally posted by Leonidas

Originally posted by Turk Nomad

I am sure that the animal on the Hun carpet was a Griffon.İt was killing a big black goat.Yes ı looked again,it was a griffon.
it probably is, what the date on the carpet?

half/half animal or animals/men is pretty common anyway.
 
İt was from Asia Hun Empire.I don't know this empire's name in English,may be Xiong-Nu
 
Well,ı am expressing  the picture from my 10th class General Turk History book:
A white Griffon(there are blue blots on it's wings,wings are Eagle Wings),and have a lion body with a eagle head.But also have two black horns.
It is attacking a very big Black Goat.Goat has a white head.
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