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Topic: Vodka is in danger Posted: 01-Nov-2006 at 13:48 |
Originally posted by Maharbbal
Paul's right French wines are overpriced abroad.
Nonetheless if you pick 100 French wines and 100 wines from whatever other places supposed to be the new fashionable vineyard, you'll have to admit that
1) you have more chances to find real crap in Chile
2) you have more chances to find something excellent in France.
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It easily to see your comments are just European biassed bassed in the feelings of superiority Europeans still have.
What you don't know Paul, is that the people behind Chilean wines are people who know of wines more that you do.
During the 19th century, the Chileans minning aristhocrats bought the services of many French experts to develop the wine industry in Chile. They bought the best parrs on Franch (The same France don't have anymore ), they bough the expertice and the skills. From more than two centuries Chilean wineries have mastered the art to the be the bests.
Perhaps you don't know but there are several FRENCH wineries in Chile as well producing the wines on here.
French wine is nothing more than a brand name. Expensive and bad.
Originally posted by Maharbbal
Pircetag is one thing, connaisseurs' opinion another. And among the 100 most expensive wines for 2006 (a good year) 96 are European and 72 are French. One Norwigean (!). The US and Chile have two each and Australia's not even there. (source Le Monde)
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Of course. The competitions are done in France. That's quite impartial
Originally posted by Maharbbal
The new countries are mass producing and marketing a product that by definition can't be one or the other. A quality vineyard is only a few hundred meters long, how can you mass produce on that. With wine we are ending up at the same point as with other agricultural products: the tomatoes, carots, cheese or meat you buy at Wall Mart, Tesco or Carrefour are safe and easy to eat but they are tasteless. The worst is what has happen with butter, nowadays butter basically has no taste; when you go to a farm and eat their butter you don't like it because it taste like milk...
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Bla. Bla..
The point is the world is waking up to the fact they don't have to expend in brand names from France when they can achieve a good ballance of price/quality in other places.
Originally posted by Maharbbal
Wine have resisted longer beacuse it is more expensive and difficult to produce, but here it is: within two years nobody will like real wine because we will lose the habit to drink it and we will prefer the tasteless sugary chile wine.
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And you really believe there other countries don't know how to produce wine. That chauvinis. Typically French, anyways. I bet you haven't tried many Chilean wines, anyways.
Originally posted by Maharbbal
Penguin I'm sure you have never even drink a good Cte de Nuit or a Entre-deux-mers. It is a great thing for Chile to be able to develop its agriculture but unfortunatly it is not a good thing for wine lovers.
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For principle I will never try a wine of a country like France who did the nuclear tests of the H bomb in the Pacific and send theirs nuclear wastes in ships that cross the Cape of Horn.
Anyways, anything France can produce in wines, Chile can do it better. Remember our parrs are authentic and not falsified reconstructions of parrs like the ones France use to make theirs so called wines.
Pinguin.
Edited by pinguin - 01-Nov-2006 at 13:49
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Posted: 01-Nov-2006 at 14:06 |
Originally posted by Mosquito
Nope. I didnt say that wheater is too dry. All i said is that wine is too dry. |
I can accept that. Most Chilean wines are still produced to meet the Chilean tastes, and we traditionally preffer wines that are dry and acid, particularly the red ones.
Today, Chile is in a campain to produce wines more in the international market tastes, indeed.
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Posted: 01-Nov-2006 at 14:44 |
Commercial vodka from Polish or Sweden sucks! The best alcoholic drink in the world is my grandfather's home made raki which Im sipping on right at this moment
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Posted: 03-Mar-2013 at 05:10 |
I prefer potatoes,fried and baked!Am i a "danger" for Vodka producers?
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Posted: 03-Mar-2013 at 10:02 |
This is an interesting thread. In the time since it first started, Vodka brands and varieties have tripled in number. My fav. for winter sipping is an infused cranberry V. from Russia.
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Posted: 03-Mar-2013 at 10:59 |
Vodka 'juiced' or other will never replace tiswin. Ntl tiswin is limited to the right type and regular availability of 'blessed corn'....at least for us traditonalists. Conseqquently a good winter evening drinking is 'sugared, buttered rum with lemon'. It once, in various preparations, was the standard drink of the founding fathers and layman alike.
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Posted: 03-Mar-2013 at 19:09 |
Dark Rum and real Maple Syrup.
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Posted: 04-Jun-2013 at 16:43 |
And here is the answer who really invented vodka:
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