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    Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 05:34
I red Ancrya and Gallipoli named by Gauls,is it true?
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Polis is an Greek word so I'd guess Gallipoli has Greek origins.
 
Though it is also in the French language, so maybe you are correct and they did name it.
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Gallipoli comes from Greek Kallipoli, where Kallos=beauty and polis = city.

Therefore Kallipoli (or Callipoli) =  Beautiful city

 
Ankyra, means Anchor in Greek. It is not determined if this is the origin of the name. The city was Frygian but was later developed mainly by Greek colonists from Pontus.
 
 
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there is another gallipoli in apuila (inside of italy's heal) also, agian a greek colony

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ankara is ancyria.(Or something like this), I think name comes from hittits.
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İn Bilim Teknik,it says Gallipoli and Ancrya named by Gauls
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But with one difference..It is not the Gauls...It is the Celts who named those, who came far away from Middle and West Europe to settle in different parts of Greece and Anatolia...
 
And Gauls are a part of Celts.
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First Gauls haven't ever settled Greece,all or stayed in North Thrace or migrated to Galatia of Minor Asia,hardly Phrygia region.
Because i see a lot of mythistory here by some Turks,I ask you to etymologise these words in Celtic.Yiannis above gave you the answer.
 I don't understand why you have problem if many of your cities have Greek names? What did you expect,to have turkish? We speak for ancient cities.
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I don't think so- The Gallic invaders of Ionia and the Allatids of Pergamum settled further inland in anatolia and cappadocia. Gallipoli has more Greek connections and under the archionship of Cimon and Pericles it was heavily colinized by Athens 
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Originally posted by Patrinos

First Gauls haven't ever settled Greece,all or stayed in North Thrace or migrated to Galatia of Minor Asia,hardly Phrygia region.
Because i see a lot of mythistory here by some Turks,I ask you to etymologise these words in Celtic.Yiannis above gave you the answer.
 I don't understand why you have problem if many of your cities have Greek names? What did you expect,to have turkish? We speak for ancient cities.
 
Yes, Gauls haven't settled...The Celts were just "partially" settled in a small area AFAIK...But I am not sure...
 
And the rest of the post has no relation with the subject line except "Let's put some words against those Turks" mentality I believe, as there were no "mythhistory" among there, but anyways, the cities in Turkey mostly take their names from the very ancient origins, staying similar to what they were named in very ancient times...Many cities which were founded later, has names from different languages, including Greek, Turkish, Arabic, Armenian etc., but most of them were also using the name of the region given in Hittite, Urartu, Phrygian, Celtic etc. eras...But all was changed more or less in some way in terms of folks using and changing them over and over.


Edited by Kapikulu - 08-Nov-2006 at 15:14
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I do recall there being a distinct invasion of Pergamum by some Gauls from Cappadocia around the Alatid period. I'm not sure though- i'll do some more research.
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Gaul - Gaulipolli - Gallipoli

I can see why you think that
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İn Turkish: Gaul=Galat.Turkmens mixed with them at a crusade(first battled,after celebrated the spring togerher.They both schamanists)
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Live your myth

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and here is Galatia of Minor Asia:

    
Look at the Galatian colonies/placenames and places of their battles.

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Myth?What do you mean by "myth" over here? As I can't see any...
Gallipoli may be named by Greeks but there is nobody here stating something other than thoughts..Only thoughts.
 
If you refer to this post of mine:
"But with one difference..It is not the Gauls...It is the Celts who named those, who came far away from Middle and West Europe to settle in different parts of Greece and Anatolia... "
 
It is made to state that that Gauls hadn't settled in Anatolia, it is the Celts, not Gauls pursuing to the claim that Gallipoli was named by Gauls...
 
Otherwise, nobody has problems with anything and as stated before, today's Turkish cities derive their name from many different origins.
 
And by the way,Galatia and Bithynia were the places where Celtic settlement was most intensively happened.
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The myth to which I refered was the myth of the non-greekness of some cities,monuments etc in Turkey.
Do you think that if we proove to you that Ancyra is a greek place name we will make war to take it? Thank God we are in 21st century now and the previous century and its "ways" seems realy too far.
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It was formerly known as Angora. The Hittites gave it the name Ankuwash, the Galatians and Romans called it Ancyra, and in the classical, Hellenistic, and Byzantine periods it was known as Ἄγκυρα nkyra. Ankara also serves as the capital of the Province of Ankara.
 

The region's vibrant history can be traced back to the Bronze Age Hatti civilization, which was succeeded in the 2nd millennium BC by the Hittites, in the 10th century BC by the Phrygians, then by the Lydians and Persians.

Historically viewed, the city was expanded and took the form of a known city mainly by the Greeks of Pontos who came there and developed the city as a trading center for commerce of goods between the Black Sea ports, Crimea, Armenia, Georgia on the north; Assyria, Cyprus, and Lebanon to the south and Persia to the east. By that period the city took also its name "γκυρα"-"ngyra" that it is used until today by the Turks. It is said that a part of population came from "Γόρδιον"-"Grdio(n)" after an earthquake which took place in antiquity.
 
If this information is true, the Hittite "Ankuwash" recalls Ancyra. I don't know if their meanings are similar or not but it is for sure that the city beared a similar name way before the Greeks came to the area.
 
As for Gelibolu, Greek "Kallipolis" is a reasonable explanation.
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The myth to which I refered was the myth of the non-greekness of some cities,monuments etc in Turkey.

A real myth is the whole notion that Greeks founded every city and built every monument across Anatolia prior to the Turks.

    
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