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Topic: Chinese Art, 2000 BC - 1800 AD Posted: 23-Oct-2006 at 14:51 |
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Tang Dynasty, gilded-bronze incense burner, dated 7th-8th century AD. |
We see so many imitations of this stuff. It's such a joke compared to the real thing.
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Posted: 23-Oct-2006 at 14:54 |
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Ming Dynasty, Tibetan buddhist base mandala, enamels on brass, cloisonne, early 15th century, Yongle Reign. |
Another favorite.
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Posted: 23-Oct-2006 at 15:47 |
real art, if you know what it is, By Wang Xizhi, Jin dynasty(a.d 600-?
tang glazed pottery
ChuDing, waring age
bronze sward, waring age
bronze crane, waring age
real masterpiece, waring age
bronze axe, sang dynasty
dont knowwaht it is, but it is exceptionally heavy, song dynasty
this is the true art, if you know what is it
tang glazed pottery
ChuDing, waring age
bronze sward, waring age
bronze crane, waring age
real masterpiece, waring age
bronze axe, sang dynasty
dont knowwaht it is, but it is exceptionally heavy, song dynasty
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 00:24 |
Thanks for the pics Siege Tower! Awesome. That bronze piece you posted from the Song Dynasty, however, that looks a bit Zhou Dynasty/Warring States, don't you think? And I'm not just saying that because it's bronze (bronzework was an art even during the Qing Dynasty), but because of the ritual vessel animal style of it.
Do you remember where you found it?
Eric
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 02:28 |
Great work! Brilliant overview over Chinese art throughout the ages.
I'm especially impressed by Chinese architecture, and mainly its pagodas whose simplicity and clarity is just striking, especially in comparison to what European architecture has produced in the same periods.
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 03:41 |
Thanks Komnenos, I'm a fan of Buddhist pagoda towers as well.
One of my favorites from the whole bunch is the original by Zhang Zerui (also known as Zhang Zeduan), this being an 18th century remake:
Spring Festival (Qing Ming) on the River, this is an 18th century remake of an 11th century classic by Zhang Zerui http://thumbsnap.com/vf/TVTPhoTo.jpgThe original was awesome, but the one shown above takes the cake, if you care to scroll through the whole 11-meter-long painted scene. You can barely tell with this pic of it, but people are flying kites on the very extreme left side of the scroll, along with hundreds of other little scenes. Here's a small scale version with three different views: Eric
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 03:42 |
I also find it funny that Fat women back then were considered more attractive.Someone should offer to write an article in a girls magazine to say the 'myth of being skinny and beutiful' with some tang painting.
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 03:48 |
Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say they liked them all-out "fat," but they definitely preferred, how should I say this, the voluptuous full-figure. Lol.
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 07:32 |
i don t remember where i found it, but wow, Preobrazhenskoe, what is your time zone.
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 07:35 |
Originally posted by Preobrazhenskoe
Thanks Komnenos, I'm a fan of Buddhist pagoda towers as well.
One of my favorites from the whole bunch is the original by Zhang Zerui (also known as Zhang Zeduan), this being an 18th century remake:
Spring Festival (Qing Ming) on the River, this is an 18th century remake of an 11th century classic by Zhang Zerui http://thumbsnap.com/vf/TVTPhoTo.jpgThe original was awesome, but the one shown above takes the cake, if you care to scroll through the whole 11-meter-long painted scene. You can barely tell with this pic of it, but people are flying kites on the very extreme left side of the scroll, along with hundreds of other little scenes. Here's a small scale version with three different views: Eric
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real masterpiece, i never got a chance to see it myself, do you know where Chinese are keeping it
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 15:54 |
I found this at wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Zeduan
The Qingming Scroll is historically notable as one of the few paintings from the former imperial collection that is still in the possession of Mainland China; it was a particular favorite of emperor Puyi, who took it with him to Manchukuo and thus kept the Southern Song Dynasty original out of the collection of the National Palace Museum which was subsequently moved to Taiwan. The National Palace Museum in Taiwan collects other versions painted by artists of subsequent dynasties [1]. Now held at the Forbidden City, the Southern Song original is closely guarded by Chinese authorities and only exhibited for brief periods every few years.
However, they provide little info on the Qing Dynasty version.
Eric
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 17:42 |
thanks Preobrazhenskoe, oh, may i ask the origin of your name
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 22:00 |
Preobrazhenskoe is the town which the young Peter the Great of Czarist Russia spent his teen years at to get away from the oppressive regent Sophia. While Peter's half-retarded brother and co-Czar spent his days carrying out the court ritual under Sophia's watchful eye at the Kremlin in Moscow, Peter was busy building up his "play" army, drilling them daily, acting like a drummer boy or bombadier in his own "play" army, which he would later use to dispose of Sophia once and for all at the age of 17 and claim true power over the throne. Preobrazhenskoe was also the site that Peter used to mock the court and high-church officials by assigning his own mock-style officials with fake titles, and where Peter gained a lot of foreign German (hence Western) influence that would affect his reign style and policy later.
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 22:15 |
Nice pictures, Eric.
Many tell a great story of inter-mixing of influences of Central Asia and the Central Plains, dispelling any myth of China being a monolithic and homogenous civilization.
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Posted: 25-Oct-2006 at 08:55 |
There are 60,000 Chinese in my city (Montreal) so here's something from 1 of the local Chinese art galleries called the Chinese Garden gallery.
Entrance (Eric, what dynasty is this based on?):
Entrance courtyard. The mural on the left features crested cranes, a symbol of longevity & happiness. The larger stones symbolize ancient Chinese deities (fuxing-luxing-shouxing):
Another entrance (with lion guardians):
The Friendship Hall (Ming dynasty architecture):
Tang dynasty Penjing art (donated by the city of Shanghai):
The Stone Boat, a smaller version of the Marble Boat, built at the Summer Palace in Beijing for Empress Cix in the late Qing dynasty (1644-1911). The lower terrace overlooks a lotus pond:
I'll post some more when I have more time.
Rgds/Bill
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Posted: 25-Oct-2006 at 14:21 |
Beautiful pics, Bill. In regards to the entrance and which dynasty that would be modeled on, I would say it looks a lot like the entrance ways of the famous gardens at Suzhou, China, which were built during the Ming Dynasty.
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Posted: 25-Oct-2006 at 15:41 |
this type of entrance was very popular in late song dynasty.in my opinion, the Chinese Feng Sui is all about the arrangement of the buidings
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Posted: 25-Oct-2006 at 22:54 |
Cizhou Type Ware Bottle, stoneware iron glaze, 13th-14th century AD, Yuan Dynasty http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c...ottlestovr8.jpgMing Dynasty Porcelain Bowl, 1450-1500 AD http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m...elainbowoq4.jpgTang Dynasty Silver Cup with Cover, 9th century AD http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=t...ercupwitgi3.jpgNorthern Song Dynasty Yaozhou Bowl, 12th century, stoneware with celadon glaze http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=n...astyyaozka6.jpgGroup of Geese Under a Snow-Covered Willow, 16th century Ming Dynasty http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g...erasnowcpp7.jpgLu Tung-Pin portrait, Ming Dynasty (1368-1644) http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=l...dynasty2au4.jpgMing Dynasty Porclain Dish, 1506-1521 AD http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m...laindishxo3.jpgNorthern Qi or Northern Zhou Jar, earthenware with copper-green glaze, 6th century AD http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=n...thernzhoec3.jpgStanding Woman, by Tang Yin, early 16th century Ming Dynasty http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...tangyineow5.jpgQianlong reign (1736-1795) Nephrite (Jade) Tripod Vessel with Cover, Western Zhou Style Bronzeware http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=q...361795nenr7.jpgEric
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Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 05:00 |
Great threads Eric, wish there are more dedicated people like you
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Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 22:49 |
Thanks Poirot, I try my best.
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