The Jin or Jurchens were never part of Silla or Koguryo. They threatened the Silla, Parhae, and Koguryo dynasties the same way they threatened the Song dynasty. |
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Though you can argue that Jin was a different entity from Koryo(by that time Korea was united by shilla but then a rebellion lead by Wang Kon toppeled the country into Koryo), they did NOT thread Koryo the same way as Song.
FE, Jurchens considered Koryo as their BROTHER, ask them to GET AWAY FROM SONG. That's because Jin considered themselves "Sons of Koguryo". It's logical because their tribe was part of Koguryo- in manchu. However, Koryo did NOT like Jin because they toppeled Barhe(Bohei), another Korean estate. As a proof, in Hunyo 10, written by the founder of Koryo, which is like a constitution, included the phrase that condemned Jin, calling it animal and stuff.
So when Jin gave 50 camels as a present for peace(Ask yourself- Why did they? Why not to Song?). But Koryo exiled the embassador who brought the camels, and starved them to death.
And thus Jin and Koryo fought on. Meanwhile, Song conquered most of China. Seeing them as allies(like Song was the "new" Tang) against Jin, Koryo set alliance with Song. Of course, Jin did not like it. THey wanted peace with Koryo so they can relax and eat up Song. But if Koryo allied with Song, Koryo could attack Jin at their back. So Jin decided to attack Koryo, not because they didn't like them, because they HAD TO.
In conclusion, Jin wanted Sympathy from Koryo since the beginning, not like Song.
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Another interesting fact comes at a diplomatic success from Koryo. There was a diplomat named Seo Hee(, 942~998). He was sent to Song to set alliance stance with song, in the year 982. However, at the same time, the Jurchens condemned them, and decided to attack(They used the incident 25 years ago to justify their invasion- the starving of 50 camels and the exile of the embassador). WIth 800,000 men. And they set up a camp, crossing the Yalu river, into Bong Sang (year 993).
When all Koryo consels were scared, and were thinking about giving them land so they move out, Seo Hee came up to the King, and strongly condemned the tribute, because of his belief that "it's wrong to easily give in the land conquered by ancestor's blood". Many agreed with him. And then the imperial court was under heavy discussion.
Meanwhile, the Koryo forces defeated the Jurchens at An Yong Jin. Because of the crooked, ruggy slope that limited cavarly speed, as well as the introduction of blade-wagons(wagons with lots of pike at front, covered by shield). Chaos ran over the Jin camp. They did not know what to do next.
Using that victory to advantage, Seo Hee decided to enter the enemy lines alone, and set up a treaty with the general.
Seo Hee asked: "We have not commited any acts of condemnation to you. Why are you invading Koryo?"
The General replied: " 2 reasons. One, We are sons of Koguryo, and its land, ours. But Koryo is on the land. We came here to regain it. Two, Koryo has set alliance to Song, and discrimiate us like barbarians. Our reasoning is to change that stance by this invasion.
Seo Hee answered: We changed our name from Hu(meaning after)-Koguryo to Koryo. We have also set our capital city to Pyongyang, just like Koguryo. Just by looking at the name, we can see who deserves the dish. Also, we never had insulted nor ignored any border nations, ever. We have set alliance with Song, to accept advanced materials. If your people wants to so, we can set alliance with you as well. However, it is the YeoJin who stands between us.
-By this point, the general was convinced-
-he sent the same argument to the king, and he asked to retreat-
-On the way back, some horses and camels were given as a gift. -
The story ends up with Seo Hee defeating the Yeo Jins and building 6 forts along Yalu. These forts are known as Gang Dong 6 Ju.
Silla collapsed on 935AD how can the founder of the Jin be related to the last king of Silla? |
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[history of Jin]
Founder of Jin is called Hambo(sinofied version of Agolta), he came from Koryo, and he's in his 60's.
Also, the last king of Shilla, Ma yi Teja, was on his 20's. The word Teja(son of King) explains it.
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