Baloochistan

Gharanai is a baluchi

Iran has also a large Baluchi population, in fact Baluchis are an Iranian people and Baluchistan has been always part of Iran.

Balochistan has as much autonomy as the all the other provinces. 50 % of the population of balochistan are not even balochi, they are pashtun, and 10 % are makranis. That leaves 40 % of the population who are Balochis. And many baloch live in the Punjab (granted still in the small sliver west of the Indus).

And what about the Brahuis ? If everything is OK, why the civil disturbance ?

Who would be included in this "We". Are you paki by any chance. I doubt.

Why  ? Is it any offensive comment ? If it is I am sorry. I thought of it as a shortform of the long word pakistani, just like the word indo or brit or thai or arbi. If it is indeed offensive please let me know something about it. So that I can be carefull in future.

In western countries "Paki" is used as an insult. The word itself is harmless, but the context it is used in western countries isn't.

It is similar for me calling you a leaf. The word is harmless, but then again i could be insulting you by calling you a leaf.

Originally posted by TeldeInduz Leonidas, How can Balochistan's resources be pilfered away by their own country? Balochistan is an integral part of Pakistan.   Cyrus,  Eastern Balochistan has been part of Mohenhendra, Afghan, Iranian and of course Mughal Empires. The Western part I think has been part of Persian Empires. Bakkar Buthi is a Harrapan site from the Kulli-Harrapa period. Before this period (ie before Mohejendra), the archeology does suggest Iranian influences and also Afghan ones. There is some Londo pottery that was discovered after this time which could be Makran or from the West (Iran). I think basically that Iran or Persia, Afghanistan and Harrapan (which I'll call Pakistan to be clear) as well as subsequent Islamic conquerors have occupied  Eastern Balochistan.

It may not be pilfered out of the country, but to other parts like punjab that's what the baloochis say i belive.

Originally posted by Anujkhamar In western countries "Paki" is used as an insult. The word itself is harmless, but the context it is used in western countries isn't. It is similar for me calling you a leaf. The word is harmless, but then again i could be insulting you by calling you a leaf.

We are not brits or westerners, its time we defined our own notions of good or bad. We dont need the colonial hangover after more than half a century.

By the way what does a 'leaf' mean. Pure curiosity

Originally posted by Vivek Who would be included in this "We". Are you paki by any chance. I doubt.

Oh man, don't ask me about my use of pronouns. I use whichever one feels right at the time, often changing the one I use mid sentence. Most people are either one of "Us" or one of "Them". Often I'm both. I have no idea what my ethnic idenity is.

I'm a anglo-celtic-gilani-arab-baluchi-muhajir-pakistani-australian. In addition I'm also related through aunts & uncles to indians, iraqis, south-africans, latvians, italians, russians, canadians, americans.

That particular 'we' was my paki side (I have never consider paki to be an insult, I never even knew it was before coming here. All of my family use it when we can't be bothered saying 'Pakistani'.)

Edited by Omar al Hashim - 05-Sep-2006 at 05:21