Should Israel exist?

The ugly thing about the sale of weaponry from the US to Israel is the schoolkids being shot by those same guns. May the "grownups" shoot eachother to death but the kids could really be left out of it. That is one thing that makes me anti-Israel today. Going on a raid to a foreign country and then use gunships and infantry to kill school children is an offence without meaning or reason. And the US knows these events happening!!!

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Originally posted by Longbowmen452      Estonians have no right to talk about the killing of school children.  100 possible children you abort 95.  you have practically zero population growth.  those children in Israel are collateral damage unlike yours who are killed on purpose.  Germany has killed less people than you.

didn't you think the stupides mistake in history was: "foreigners talking about politics of other countries."?

Originally posted by Kalevipoeg The ugly thing about the sale of weaponry from the US to Israel is the schoolkids being shot by those same guns. May the "grownups" shoot eachother to death but the kids could really be left out of it. That is one thing that makes me anti-Israel today. Going on a raid to a foreign country and then use gunships and infantry to kill school children is an offence without meaning or reason. And the US knows these events happening!!!

What�s ugly is people kill not guns or bombs. If you are anti-Israel just because they are �killing children� better think clearly because your belief is not accurate. Have you read about the activities of the suicide bombers? They don�t just kill innocents, they kill innocent children, men and women, old and young. And one don�t need to know where the bombs on their bodies are coming from just to say you are anti-Palestine.

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What�s ugly is people kill not guns or bombs. If you are anti-Israel just because they are �killing children?better think clearly because your belief is not accurate. Have you read about the activities of the suicide bombers? They don�t just kill innocents, they kill innocent children, men and women, old and young. And one don�t need to know where the bombs on their bodies are coming from just to say you are anti-Palestine

Actually, the mind of anti-semitism is deeper than that.  It involves how Jews in the United States government manipulate american taxes to protect Israel.  There are many conspiracy books that confirms this.  What's worse is that these politic Jews in US lunged US into a whirlwind of hate, eventually leading up to 9.11. 

In other words, because of these determined Zionist Jews, America has paid a great prize. 

So, what has been going on afterwards?  Jewish manipulation of the media, and more hatred towards the innocent arabs- who lost land because of the Jewish invasion on their land.  Now that Iraq is being invaded (I suspect there were more reasons to invade Iraq rather than oil- because its ballistic missiles easily threatened Israel, Jewish politicians wanted Saddam out).  That has forced many nations under United States to tribute their army into a war in a land they have never heard of. 

I don't think helping Israel is the right way.  Osama Bin Laden, in his recent tape confirmed the fact- stop helping the jews.  US should not help Israel- in fact, stop every support.  Israel has violated hundreds of resolutions.  And it should be the time it pays the price.  If US had the power to violate UN to go to war, why not stop the support of another small, dry nation? 

I agree with you but remember, Palestinains kills Israeli children too

Israeli soldiers are unhumanitarian in their way they strap palestinian boys onto their humvy vehicles as human shield use.  What kind of military are they?  They remind me of the third Reich army.

Originally posted by AssyrianGuy7 I believe israel should excist thats only if assyria excists.  Why is it that the jews get a country and the assyrians dont.  The assyrians have a greater history then the jewish history, the assyrians have been around longer then the jews have.  Both jews and assyrians went through genocides. Just because germans killed a few jews it does mean that british can come in and give jews land.  Assyrians have gone through genocides to the latest one is the armenian greek assyrian genocide.  Why didn't assyrians get a country. assyrians too got killed. still today assyrians are getting killed because of thier christian faith.  all of the church bombings in iraq were done to assyrian churchs. in the last 2 months 17 churches have been blown up. why aren't the british giving them a country?

A "few" Jews? Are you calling the MASSACRE of SIX MILLION  Jews as simple as "killing a few Jews"? Besides, I don't see any mass demonstrations asking for an independent Assyrian state, do you? But I advocate for a separate Assyrian state. Try persuading the Iraqi government to listen...hehe.

"Estonians have no right to talk about the killing of school children.  100 possible children you abort 95.  you have practically zero population growth.  those children in Israel are collateral damage unlike yours who are killed on purpose.  Germany has killed less people than you."

We don't abort children, we just don't have any children. What kind of weird piece of information is that. There is no exceptionally high abortion rate in Estonia. And what about the killing, you are shooting blanks here.

Originally posted by demon What�s ugly is people kill not guns or bombs. If you are anti-Israel just because they are �killing children?better think clearly because your belief is not accurate. Have you read about the activities of the suicide bombers? They don�t just kill innocents, they kill innocent children, men and women, old and young. And one don�t need to know where the bombs on their bodies are coming from just to say you are anti-Palestine Actually, the mind of anti-semitism is deeper than that.  It involves how Jews in the United States government manipulate american taxes to protect Israel.  There are many conspiracy books that confirms this.  What's worse is that these politic Jews in US lunged US into a whirlwind of hate, eventually leading up to 9.11.  In other words, because of these determined Zionist Jews, America has paid a great prize.  So, what has been going on afterwards?  Jewish manipulation of the media, and more hatred towards the innocent arabs- who lost land because of the Jewish invasion on their land.  Now that Iraq is being invaded (I suspect there were more reasons to invade Iraq rather than oil- because its ballistic missiles easily threatened Israel, Jewish politicians wanted Saddam out).  That has forced many nations under United States to tribute their army into a war in a land they have never heard of.  I don't think helping Israel is the right way.  Osama Bin Laden, in his recent tape confirmed the fact- stop helping the jews.  US should not help Israel- in fact, stop every support.  Israel has violated hundreds of resolutions.  And it should be the time it pays the price.  If US had the power to violate UN to go to war, why not stop the support of another small, dry nation?  I agree with you but remember, Palestinains kills Israeli children too Israeli soldiers are unhumanitarian in their way they strap palestinian boys onto their humvy vehicles as human shield use.  What kind of military are they?  They remind me of the third Reich army.

what are you, some sort of Nazi?  you're letting your hate of an ethnicity blind you.  i live in Louisiana and there's nowhere near that much racism.  that's in the NE.  there's almost no Jewish Congressmen/Congresswomen.  you have no idea what you're talking about.  Saddam was completely insane.  he was a threat to everyone.

Please remember that this is a history forum for discussion (not argument) about subjects of historical interest. While many topics - especially in modern history - cross over into the discussion of politics, which can lead to spirited and passionate discussion - it is not necessary to allow tempers to get in the way of rational discussion. 

 

Please maintain a civil tone, refrain from posting racist rhetoric and please also refrain from posting unsubstantiated "facts" that are insulting to an entire group, race or nation. 

Lets keep to the topic at hand.

Israel's right to exist should not be even questioned.The debate is wrong.