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Topic: Should Israel exist? Posted: 16-Nov-2004 at 17:37 |
Should Israel exist? I do not. I don't agree that Britain can just turn in over to the Jewish people because of mainly the holocaust. And too much support is being given to Israel from the U.S...
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JanusRook
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Posted: 16-Nov-2004 at 22:26 |
Should Israel exist is like asking if the US should exist or Iraq or the Republic of Minerva (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Minerva).
I believe that Israel has a right to exist, however I also believe that palestine has a right to exist. I believe that the Israeli Nazis need to hand over power to the palestinians, if they do not wish to make them an independant state then they should quit their policy of treating them as second tier citizens.
I am not one that should comment on this issue right now though.
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Cyrus Shahmiri
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 06:14 |
If Israel doesn't exist then the land of terrorists (Palestine) will exist, won't it?
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 07:21 |
I agree with Janus. Off course Israel has the right to exist, but they
don't have the right to occupy Palestinean territories. Palestine has
also a right to exist, and not as an Apartheid style homeland.
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 07:27 |
Originally posted by MixcoatlToltecahtecuhtli
I agree with Janus. |
Count me in as well...
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 15:40 |
same here, I think Israel is so blinded by thier desire to take worthless land that they dont realize the terrorists that cause them so many problems are largely of their own creation, fools.
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Christscrusader
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 17:30 |
Since now that Israel does exsist, if land is handed over to the Palestinians, I worry that hatred towards the Jews is already past negotiation, and there would be no peace ( at least not for awhile)
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 20:09 |
Originally posted by Christscrusader
Should Israel exist? I do not. I don't agree that Britain can just turn in over to the Jewish people because of mainly the holocaust. And too much support is being given to Israel from the U.S...
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So what are you going to do with them?
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 20:12 |
Now its too late. It cannot be handed back to the Palestinians, as too much hatred has entered there heads. A split state could work, but I would think Palestine would build up militarily and Israel would get angry and go to war and the problem would get worse and worse.
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 20:27 |
If I were President, I would revoke all American support for Israel, and support Palestine. That would go over well on the Arab street.
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 20:34 |
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 20:49 |
Originally posted by Christscrusader
Now its too late. It cannot be handed back to the Palestinians, as too much hatred has entered there heads. A split state could work, but I would think Palestine would build up militarily and Israel would get angry and go to war and the problem would get worse and worse. |
Too late? LOL, well, don't you know that Israel have been an official nation since 1948?
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 20:50 |
Im talking about giving back all the land to Palestine, why would I make this post if i didn't even know information on the country, read all posts before you comment again.
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 20:51 |
Originally posted by Genghis
If I were President, I would revoke all American support for Israel, and support Palestine. That would go over well on the Arab street. |
And then?
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 20:53 |
Originally posted by Christscrusader
Im talking about giving back all the land to Palestine, why would I make this post if i didn't even know information on the country, read all posts before you comment again. |
I read all the post that's why I'm saying what I'm saying. Giving back the land to Palestinian was an idea made years and years ago. It's an old news already for you to bring it up again. Both parties are now on a stage exploring the possibility of two nations existing side by side.
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 21:00 |
The main point is the Palestinians habve too much hate towards the Jews and I don't think seperate governments would work well
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 21:15 |
I believe israel should excist thats only if assyria excists. Why is it that the jews get a country and the assyrians dont. The assyrians have a greater history then the jewish history, the assyrians have been around longer then the jews have. Both jews and assyrians went through genocides. Just because germans killed a few jews it does mean that british can come in and give jews land. Assyrians have gone through genocides to the latest one is the armenian greek assyrian genocide. Why didn't assyrians get a country. assyrians too got killed. still today assyrians are getting killed because of thier christian faith. all of the church bombings in iraq were done to assyrian churchs. in the last 2 months 17 churches have been blown up. why aren't the british giving them a country?
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 22:40 |
Originally posted by Genghis
If I were President, I would revoke all American support for Israel, and support Palestine. That would go over well on the Arab street. |
I beleive this is one issue we can totally agree on, also Israel is th emost expensive part of US policy.
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 23:10 |
Khakhan so do you then suggest the US drops all money, leaving Israel surronded with enemies? I mean, i don't think theres too much trade between Israel and countries like Lebenon.
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Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 23:13 |
Israel has enoough infrastructure and US moeny in its economy to survive on its own now, it will just have to be less extravagant.
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